Do Bangladesh still deserve their minnows tag?

[OverratedSanity]

It makes you wonder how good WI could be right now if they hadn't lost so many players to T20 over the last decade. They could be the best side in the World considering the talent they have.

Not many of them would be good enough to play in their test team. Don't think it's hurt them much.

They'd probably still be trotting out a half dead Gayle and Marlon Samuels keeping Shai Hope out of the team.

 

[Starfighter]

It makes you wonder how good WI could be right now if they hadn't lost so many players to T20 over the last decade. They could be the best side in the World considering the talent they have.

That might be a bit of a stretch.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Not many of them would be good enough to play in their test team. Don't think it's hurt them much.

They'd probably still be trotting out a half dead Gayle and Marlon Samuels keeping Shai Hope out of the team.

They could have some world class spinners with guys like Narine & Badree who have focused on T20s. All rounders with immense talent like Andre Russell, Dwayne Bravo & Kieran Pollard could have developed differently into Test-class players had T20 not been such a big lure to them. You never know.

 

[Starfighter]

I don't think Badree would be better than Bishoo at test level. His first class average is 37, while Bishoo's is 26.

As for Narine, I prefer watching bowlers who actually bowl.

Russell at tests? What are you, Jarrod Kimber? Just no.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I don't think Badree would be better than Bishoo at test level. His first class average is 37, while Bishoo's is 26.

As for Narine, I prefer watching bowlers who actually bowl.

Russell at tests? What are you, Jarrod Kimber? Just no.

That's the point though. They would have developed very differently if they had more of a longer form focus.

Though I probably could have used better examples than a chucker and a drug cheat

 

[Starfighter]

Bravo did play 40 tests, so it's not like he's an unknown quantity at that level. I'm not sure Russell would have had the temperament anyway. I seem to remember that Pollard's fc figures were awful for some time, although his current average of 37 is pretty decent in the WI setup. He'd have to have made his spot purely as a batsmen though.

Badree's 36, and made his fc debut in 2002. Since then he's only played twelve matches. If he didn't develop into an established long form player then, I'm not sure he would have made much progress over the past six or so years.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Geez I wasn't talking solely about those specific players, just in general

 

[Starfighter]

But then who else? I think you'd end up with a side not too dissimilar to the current one.

 

[srbhkshk]

Given the standard of game teams display overseas, if WI manage a test in Aus/SA (and already having got one in Pak and England), they are not far off from being the best touring side, especially given that they have no away tours with wickets similar to their own.

 

[Starfighter]

I'd say that some of the subcontinental wickets are quite similar to their own.

 

[TheJediBrah]

But then who else? I think you'd end up with a side not too dissimilar to the current one.

T20 has had a decade of influence it's impossible to know

 

[srbhkshk]

I'd say that some of the subcontinental wickets are quite similar to their own.

Nah, windies wickets don't turn anywhere near as much as the SC wickets, they are just dead...

 

[cnerd123]

There are several good players who aren't playing due to poor development/handling too and I think it's fair to blame that on the WICB

 

[smash84]

this thread is about the bangers.

If you guys want to talk about WI you are welcome to go to the umpteen number of threads asking the question if WI will ever rise again.

To the OP, they seem to have finally turned a corner. Not minnows anymore (especially at home).

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

On a spinning wicket batting first, they are a force to be reckoned with. I would be curious to see how they would have to make a 260 batting in the 4th inning against the Aussie bowlers.

 

[cnerd123]

See I think the talent is there in the BD side - they aren't carrying batsmen who look absolutely clueless in the conditions like Wade or Khawaja - but they also seem to lack the mental strength required for such a task. Tamim and Mushy are fantastic but Shakib DGAF, Kayes has the heart but is probably the most technically limited, and the rest of the guys are just too young and raw

Mominul and Moses back in the side would strengthen their chances of making that chase

 

[cnerd123]

What about it? Nah, still minnows. Though good on them for having a win. More than Australia did in SL last year.

What about now Burgey?

 

[fredfertang]

I don't think you can describe a side as minnows when they leave out a batsman averaging more than 46 for what seem to be cricketing reasons

 

[Lillian Thomson]

There's no such thing as a minnow anyway, except amongst those wishing to minipulate stats guru.

 

[91Jmay]

I think the fact the 'top' teams have so many issues now coupled with improved performances by WI/BD (or perhaps aiding their improved performances) means there are no minnows anymore.