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Fleming is so much better than Taylor who is honestly rubbish against any kind of decent bowling
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Devon Conway: Why He Wasn't a Star from 2010-2017
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The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
I mean I could never manage a 100 in my old 4C club grade, so if I scored a double at test level it would definitely be a one off lol
RossTaylorsBox
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Daemon
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Dunno why I always assumed I'd score a 100 eventually when I first started playing cricket. Been 16 long years and 0 tons.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Look at all these wannabe Jason Gillespies here...
The Hutt Rec
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It's like my lifelong goal, along with 200 in tenpin bowling haha
RossTaylorsBox
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You should consider becoming a Christian and stop listening to Tori Amos.
Prince EWS
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My poor health/nerve injuries made me accept the fact that randomly coming out of retirement to play a third of a season like I did for Dan's team is now out of the question, and I became disappointed I never tonned up when I thought about that too even though I was a bowler.
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It’s the hope that keeps you going.
Change your grip slightly and bat well in the nets, you think you’ve unlocked some hidden talent within yourself.
My runs/$ has never crossed 1 in any season of playing club cricket lol.
It costs $30-40 per game tbf but still.
Change your grip slightly and bat well in the nets, you think you’ve unlocked some hidden talent within yourself.
My runs/$ has never crossed 1 in any season of playing club cricket lol.
It costs $30-40 per game tbf but still.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
I've followed, watched probably every ball he has played for firebirds and beyond since the last 4 years. When I saw him first I thought he's all right. Didn't look like a Sachin or Lara but just about all right. Knew he will be a long term firebirds player. A black cap and as successful as he has shown so far? No way.
There's a reason to it. He was very strong square on the off, wasn't all that great leg side, barely played a straight drive and was very uncomfortable when bowled at the ribs. Still he knew how to score runs, wait for the bowlers to make the mistake and back his strength.
Fast forward by a year, I saw he was not only playing square on off but was starting to hit through extra covers meaning he had started to score off the 4th and 5th stump balls as well. Promptly he scored way more than the previous year. In this time he was also playing t20s, one day format and doing really well.
In the last year and half I've seen him play straight, leg side both square and in front of mid wicket. His wrist work through leg side has improved immensely and now has a mean pull shot. He's still uncomfortable playing balls on his ribs, he doesn't have a back foot clip in his armory yet but I can guarantee we will see that come through in the next couple of months or three or by the time our season starts.
As for playing spin, first year with firebirds he was defending next to the pads, sweep shot wasn't a go to shot, used the feet to hit over the top only and didn't rotate strike against spin as much.
Fast foward to now, he can sweep, paddle, use the feet and hit on the ground as well as in the air, defends in front of the pads and rotates strike over real quick.
For now he's a near complete batsman... Moreover from what I've heard one of the most down to earth bloke. We have seen a lot of south africans and aussies in wellington try and ply their trade. He's nothing like those. They were more than satisfied to play at first class, barely turned up at club, drank a barrel and didn't believe they can make it to the next level. Arrogance in performance is good but arrogance outside of cricket is not a great quality, it stops a player from learning. Clubs will acknowledge they were good in drips when they benefited.
When Devon made it to firebirds they weren't a consistently winning side. Yes it's not just because of him firebirds won trophies but his contribution has been major on and off the field.
I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever he will go more than all right, everyone will have a blip or two and he will too but I'm more than convinced he'll find a way out of the quicksand if he comes across one. Top level sport form is constantly shifting, one minute it's all glorious and the next a quicksand. Some get sucked into it fast but I think Conway will know how to get out of it quicker than some. Everyone will have to fall and stumble at the top level. No way out of it but I think he'll go all right for years to come... I'm totally convinced about it.
There's a reason to it. He was very strong square on the off, wasn't all that great leg side, barely played a straight drive and was very uncomfortable when bowled at the ribs. Still he knew how to score runs, wait for the bowlers to make the mistake and back his strength.
Fast forward by a year, I saw he was not only playing square on off but was starting to hit through extra covers meaning he had started to score off the 4th and 5th stump balls as well. Promptly he scored way more than the previous year. In this time he was also playing t20s, one day format and doing really well.
In the last year and half I've seen him play straight, leg side both square and in front of mid wicket. His wrist work through leg side has improved immensely and now has a mean pull shot. He's still uncomfortable playing balls on his ribs, he doesn't have a back foot clip in his armory yet but I can guarantee we will see that come through in the next couple of months or three or by the time our season starts.
As for playing spin, first year with firebirds he was defending next to the pads, sweep shot wasn't a go to shot, used the feet to hit over the top only and didn't rotate strike against spin as much.
Fast foward to now, he can sweep, paddle, use the feet and hit on the ground as well as in the air, defends in front of the pads and rotates strike over real quick.
For now he's a near complete batsman... Moreover from what I've heard one of the most down to earth bloke. We have seen a lot of south africans and aussies in wellington try and ply their trade. He's nothing like those. They were more than satisfied to play at first class, barely turned up at club, drank a barrel and didn't believe they can make it to the next level. Arrogance in performance is good but arrogance outside of cricket is not a great quality, it stops a player from learning. Clubs will acknowledge they were good in drips when they benefited.
When Devon made it to firebirds they weren't a consistently winning side. Yes it's not just because of him firebirds won trophies but his contribution has been major on and off the field.
I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever he will go more than all right, everyone will have a blip or two and he will too but I'm more than convinced he'll find a way out of the quicksand if he comes across one. Top level sport form is constantly shifting, one minute it's all glorious and the next a quicksand. Some get sucked into it fast but I think Conway will know how to get out of it quicker than some. Everyone will have to fall and stumble at the top level. No way out of it but I think he'll go all right for years to come... I'm totally convinced about it.
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nzfan
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I'll tell the South African who was rated way higher than him. Obus Pienaar... He was a gun bat and thought to be making the black caps ahead of every south african that came over to Wellington. He had a great club season or two but just left. Got disappointed he wasn't look at immediately despite his ability and just gave up from what I've heard.
Another South African who was plying his trade at the time in wellington when Conway came over didn't mention Conway as his threat but Obus and James Price. The South African dude was sweating about these two and said they both will probably take his spot over. Conway was thought to be good but not any better than James Price or Obus. Obus backed the claim with unbelievable runs. Wonder whom he is playing for now?
As it stands today, Conway has written himself into record books and on the advent of what looks to be a very promising international career. Wonder if Obus struck around we would not have seen Devon Conway write himself into the record books.
Another South African who was plying his trade at the time in wellington when Conway came over didn't mention Conway as his threat but Obus and James Price. The South African dude was sweating about these two and said they both will probably take his spot over. Conway was thought to be good but not any better than James Price or Obus. Obus backed the claim with unbelievable runs. Wonder whom he is playing for now?
As it stands today, Conway has written himself into record books and on the advent of what looks to be a very promising international career. Wonder if Obus struck around we would not have seen Devon Conway write himself into the record books.
HeathDavisSpeed
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As I recall, Obus tore up in the club one-dayers, but didn't fare particularly well in the two day version. Scored a ton for Wellington A, maybe in a one-dayer I think?
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
It's possible he scored in one dayers. Can't remember all details but watched him bat and he could bat for sure. He could have comfortably played for firebirds no doubt about that.
Flem274*
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ah, so there we have it then. since moving to nz his technique has improved out of sight. sounds like he went from hamish rutherford to kane-lite with 3 years hard work.
just going to note the distinct lack of jesus, south african parenting and pop-psychology in the evidence for conways rise.
just going to note the distinct lack of jesus, south african parenting and pop-psychology in the evidence for conways rise.
RossTaylorsBox
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Cornflake Girl is a good song imo
HeathDavisSpeed
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Is it another one of Kippax's not-so-subtle insults?
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Honestly I can’t make head nor take of his posts most of the time.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
i think i made a post saying he'd not be likely to succeed opening and you might be better off playing a specialist opener and have Conway come out further down once the new ball was blunted
this was egg on face time for the forum's notorious tori amos fan but in my defence the only time it sounds he looked vaguely likely to get out was the first morning
this was egg on face time for the forum's notorious tori amos fan but in my defence the only time it sounds he looked vaguely likely to get out was the first morning