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Debut Chronology Draft - Voting Thread

trundler

Hall of Fame Member
Please pick the top 2 teams from each group of 7.

Group A:
Fuller PilchCricZo XIAndrewBCharter 77 Final XIAnkitJJOJOXITeuton
WG Grace * (7)Bob SimpsonBarry Richards1. Bill PonsfordJack Hobbs
Geoff BoycottSunil Gavaskar /Graeme Smith*Bill LawryBruce Mitchell [5]2. Conrad HunteAlastair Cook
Everton WeekesGordon Greenidge /George HeadleyJustin LangerRahul Dravid3. Charles Macartney (5)Viv Richards
Wally Hammond (6)Frank Worrell / o ©Martin CroweYounis KhanVirat Kohli (c)4. Sachin TendulkarPeter May
Shivnarine ChanderpaulGraham Thorpe /Kane WilliamsonRoss TaylorJoe Root [6]5. Clyde WalcottMohammad Yousuf
Andy Flower +AB de Villiers /Ian BothamKeith Miller (*) (5)Rohan Kanhai6. Clive Lloyd (c)Ted Dexter
Kapil Dev (1)Trevor Goddard / oAlan Knott+MS Dhoni (+)Mark Boucher (wk)7. Les Ames (wk)Denis Lindsay
Ravi Ashwin (4)Jonny Bairstow / +Shaun PollockJohn R. Reid (6)Peter Pollock [3]8. Andy Roberts (2)Ray Lindwall
Rangana Herath (5)Mitchell Starc o /George LohmannMike Procter (1)Curtly Ambrose [2]9. Shane Bond (3)Harold Larwood
Kagiso Rabada (2)Bill O'Reilly oJim LakerShane Warne (4)Clarrie Grimmett [4]10. Stuart MacGill (4)Jason Gillespie
Joel Garner (3)Allan Donald oJames AndersonFazal Mahmood (3)Fred Trueman [1]11. Sydney Barnes (1)Muttiah Muralitharan
Neil Adcock o
Brian Statham (2)

Group B

Mr_misterTrundlerPothassrbhkshkhonestbharaniweeman27bobataraxia
Victor TrumperArthur MorrisLen HuttonHerbert SutcliffeSimon KatichDavid Warner1) Bill Woodfull /
Bill BrownMike HusseyVirender SehwagSid BarnesShane WatsonCheteshwar Pujara2) Matthew Hayden /
Kumar Sangakkarra +Clem HillRanjitsinhjiSteve SmithKen Barrington (vc)Ricky Ponting3) Neil Harvey /
Brian Lara *Dudley NourseJacques KallisGreg Chappell (5)Stan McCabeAllan Border4) Denis Compton /
Graeme PollockSteve WaughJaved MiandadDouglas Jardine *Carl HooperDean Jones5) Warwick Armstrong / o
Doug WaltersShakib Al HassanVVS LaxmanSeymour NurseAubrey FaulknerGarry Sobers6) Monty Noble / o
Ben Stokes 5Jim Parks+Matt PriorQuinton De Kock +Adam Gilcrhist (wk) (c)Andrew Flintoff7) Wilfred Rhodes / o
Maurice Tate 3Richie Benaud*Richard HadleeHugh Tayfield (4)Ravi JadejaJeff Dujon+8) Imran Khan* o /
Michael Holding 1Malcolm MarshallAlan DavidsonFrank Tyson (3)Wasim AkramDennis Lillee9) Bert Oldfield + /
Alec Bedser 2Ian BishopGraeme SwannBob Willis (2)Jasprit BumrahNeil Wagner10) Pat Cummins o
Hedley Verity 4Dale SteynCourtney WalshGlenn McGrath (1)Patrick PattersonJeff Thomson11) Waqar Younis o

Winners qualify to semi-finals.
 
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Fuller Pilch

International Vice-Captain
Even tougher than usual as this draft guarantees loads of great and ATGs throughout the sides.

Group A: Ankjit, JOJO
Group B: Pothas, srbhkshk
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Group A: AnkitJ, Fuller Pilch (Teuton super close) - Think Teuton had the stronger top 3 of the 3 sides but really liked Fuller Pilch's side and AnkitJ's bowling was immense, whilst Flower as keeper for Fuller Pilch allowed him to have a fifth bowling option whilst retaining an incredibly strong middle order

Group B: Pothas, srbhkshk - Pothas with plenty of batting depth there and class players in several disciplines. Great 4 man seam attack in particular whilst having a strong lower order, spinner perhaps being UK based influences things very handy too if not on level of many of the other spinners in this draft. 2nd spot was very close, a couple of sides had non-specialist openers who had opened a bit in fairness but hard to ignore even though they may well have done better opening then if they picked an average specialist opener. Very solid bowling attack from srbhkshk and a brilliant top 4. Although taking into account bowling and batting prefer the 5 and 6 of a couple of sides I didn't vote for in that group. Intrigued by Ataraxia's team and how they would do if this was simulated in real life mostly the 5-7 as I may be underestimating their batting potential but perhaps better of with 1 more specialist bat.

Some very good teams not mentioned in this post but having looked at it these teams stand out most to me.

As an aside @honestbharani you are a big fan of Simon Katich I presume? - might just be me but feel like nearly every draft he's picked in he's in your team!
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Very big fan. Excellent player who should have played far more games than he ended up doing. And I love me some left arm wrist spin.
 

ataraxia

International Debutant
Intrigued by Ataraxia's team and how they would do if this was simulated in real life mostly the 5-7 as I may be underestimating their batting potential but perhaps better of with 1 more specialist bat.
Armstrong + Noble have terrific FC batting records when you factor in the era they played in and Rhodes held his own as a test opener, FTR.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Armstrong + Noble have terrific FC batting records when you factor in the era they played in and Rhodes held his own as a test opener, FTR.
Don't know the ins and outs of Rhodes career although know he opened a lot but think its the spread of innings at different positions including number 10 being his 2nd most prominent batting position after opening that made me wonder - and hadn't paid much attention to their FC records tbf but Armstrong's in particular is impressive. But comparing to the other 5s and 6s in that 2nd group I wondered if they would match some of the other middle orders - although your side does bat deep with Oldfield at 9 (EDIT - and even Cummins at 10) - I was thinking as I was writing previous post rightly or wrongly if you had say Sangakarra at 3 with the gloves and everyone down a spot that probably would've swayed it - I thought of Sanga actually with stephen and I speaking about keepers and stephen saying along the lines of having players who were decent at best with the gloves to pack the batting undermines the art of keeping somewhat - he may have used Sanga as an example of that but don't quote me on that. Also as I know you filled your squad up pretty quickly I wondered - haven't checked yet as to whether Sangakarra may have been a pick you were able to make as no use saying pick Gilchrist for eg if someone beats you to him.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Very big fan. Excellent player who should have played far more games than he ended up doing. And I love me some left arm wrist spin.
Over 50 average when he opened in fairness to him is impressive! Am relatively young so only really caught the tail end of his Test career 'live'
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
He was the Pujara Dravid type cricketer too. Did not make a big song and dance about what he was doing and just slid under the radar but was an excellent player who did well everywhere. A spiritual successor to David Boon IMO.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
He was the Pujara Dravid type cricketer too. Did not make a big song and dance about what he was doing and just slid under the radar but was an excellent player who did well everywhere. A spiritual successor to David Boon IMO.
Flashbacks to what I think was the first draft I played in with Boon - the syllable draft, what a SR too at 40.96!
 

srbhkshk

International Regular
Group A : Ankitj , Teuton
Group B : Pothas , Ataraxia

It might be the bias towards my own team but group B looks stronger than group A to me.
 

Pothas

Hall of Fame Member
Ankitj, Teuton
Srbhkshk, Trundler (Hussey is a bit of a problem but great bowling attack so I can deal with it, would have just picked Warner though)
 

trundler

Hall of Fame Member
Haha picking Warner felt a bit like selling out since trundler's general principle of rating openers states pick openers who do well in England or bust. Morris did excellently of course. Would like more votes for this round plz.
 
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Teuton

International Vice-Captain
Tbh it feels like a top half and a bottom half.

Div1: fuller and Andrew b, both excellent teams amongst high quality competition
Div2: mister and trundler, both enough talent to get through but with a flaw in team balance
 

mr_mister

Hall of Fame Member
it's probably the most ATGs I've drafted in a side for a long time. I guess my issue must be Sanga keeping or something
 

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