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Cricket Web All Time World XI

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
SJS said:
Much before the era of 400 or around runs came upon us, Kapil scored at a staggering 95.1 runs per 100 balls over an 18 year career starting in 1874 (the fact that it was 32 years ago is very relevant)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I think he did so well then to come out retirement in the 1970's. Phenomenal player.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
sirjeremy11 said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I think he did so well then to come out retirement in the 1970's. Phenomenal player.

Yea, there are stories of him participating in the Sepoy Rebellion of 1859, before turning to cricket and clean bowling WG Grace a couple times in the process.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
There is no doubt in my mind that Imran is simply the best player the subcontinent has ever produced. However, for ODI's and for what we are asking this position to be, Kapil edges Imran out.
 

C_C

International Captain
Well for #7-11, one has to think ahead inorder to see what is most important.
There are five available slots - they should all go to people who gathered their reputation with their bowling, simply because a formidable ODI side needs atleast five bona-fide bowlers and with the kind of batting at the top order, their batting skills take a backseat to their bowling ones.
As such, Klusener, who IMO would make it to any ODI side, misses out here - he was a formidable lower order batsman and a decent bowler but we need someone who was a formidable bowler and a decent batsman.

Of the bowling slots, I consider Garner,Akram and Murali to be locked and out of them, Akram could pack a mighty wallop every now and then. With Akram most likely down at #8, #7's batting importance is lessened a bit...which makes Kapil a perfect fit for the position.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
well i intially would have gone for Klusener Automatically here, but the #7 should be a good hard-hitting bowler who can bowl well as a first change bowler, who can bowl well at the death & probably a pretty good fielder. Dev seems to fit this better than Klusener in some area's, so for that i vote Dev.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
IMO, a good ODI side needs to bat down to 8. As such, the "bowlers who can hit it a bit" like Wasim and Warne are better suited to the number 9 position. Number 7 is more of a batsman's spot, and Kluesener was a significantly more formidable ODI batsman than Kapil, and at his peak in the late 90s he was a high quality bowler as well, though he declined quite badly later on.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
IMO, a good ODI side needs to bat down to 8. As such, the "bowlers who can hit it a bit" like Wasim and Warne are better suited to the number 9 position. Number 7 is more of a batsman's spot, and Kluesener was a significantly more formidable ODI batsman than Kapil, and at his peak in the late 90s he was a high quality bowler as well, though he declined quite badly later on.
Is that one for Kluesner?
 

C_C

International Captain
FaaipDeOiad said:
IMO, a good ODI side needs to bat down to 8. As such, the "bowlers who can hit it a bit" like Wasim and Warne are better suited to the number 9 position. Number 7 is more of a batsman's spot, and Kluesener was a significantly more formidable ODI batsman than Kapil, and at his peak in the late 90s he was a high quality bowler as well, though he declined quite badly later on.
For a batting lineup comprising of Tendy-Lara-Gilly-Viv-Bevo, the prime job of a #7 is to score 20-30 quick runs at better or close to run-a-ball consistently and then do well with the ball.
As such, i think Kapil fits the job bettert than Zulu.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
The only thing for me which detracts from Kluesner is post World Cup 1999 he never quite reached those heights again, so people will always look at him as someone who really lost it over the latter stages of his career rather than remember what a juggernaut he was in that tournament.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
Looks like Kapil has won this time.

Tendulkar
Gilchrist
Richards
Ponting
Lara
Bevan
Kapil
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?
?
?

Let the votes begin for number 8!
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Not really sure if Wasim's batting is good enough for number 8, but if you put a decent number 9 like Warne behind him it wouldn't be a major problem, so I'll go Wasim Akram.
 

sirjeremy11

State Vice-Captain
I think I will vote Wasim as well. The man's ODI record is absolutely phenomenal. And 16.5 isn't that bad an average for a number 8. Just ask Jacob Oram.

EDIT - Withdraw vote for Wasim. I will vote Shaun Pollock and hold my Wasim vote for # 9.
 
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aussie

Hall of Fame Member
FaaipDeOiad said:
As such, the "bowlers who can hit it a bit" like Wasim and Warne are better suited to the number 9 position..
i think at his prime with the bat which looking at his career would be like from his debut to the early 90's he was pretty much more than can just bat a bit or as you said just hit a bit. He could have been close to all-rounder status around then.
 

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