Conditions dependent Players

[ParwazHaiJunoon]

Inspired by recent Anderson & Williamson threads, this thread lists all players who perform like beast in certain conditions.

Players	FTB / HTB	??	Grass	Spin	??
Warner
Anderson
Broad
Yasir
Starc (46W in 8 D/N Tests @18.86)					?
Rohit (avg 80 H, 27 A)
Kane (avg 30 across SL, SA, Eng, Ind)	?
Southee

Expand this Table to include those players who you think belong here.

 

[ankitj]

You are being forewarned. Answer to this thread is NOT Jadeja

 

[Starfighter]

Players	FTB / HTB	??	Grass	Spin	??	Home Umpires
Warner
Anderson
Broad
Yasir
Starc (46W in 8 D/N Tests @18.86)					?
Rohit (avg 80 H, 27 A)
Kane (avg 30 across SL, SA, Eng, Ind)	?
Southee
Abdul Qadir (26.82 home, 47.58 away)

 

[Flem274*]

htb - england, india, aus

 

[Flem274*]

ftb - wagner

 

[TheJediBrah]

Mahela Jayawardene
Vernon Philander

You are being forewarned. Answer to this thread is NOT Jadeja

Not even joking, he was the first player I thought of

 

[jimmy101]

Keep in mind folks that cricket is a conditions dependent sport.

 

[Prince EWS]

Keep in mind folks that cricket is a conditions dependent sport.

One of the key elements that makes it so interesting IMO.

 

[trundler]

Colin De Grandhomme looks like a world beater when it swings in NZ. That debut 6fa.

Not every player can be McGrath or Tendulkar and that's fine. You'd certainly take Shah over Lyon in certain conditions and vice versa. Still takes skill to exploit what's on offer etc etc.

 

[Prince EWS]

Colin De Grandhomme looks like a world beater when it swings in NZ. That debut 6fa.

Yeah Colin's bowling is a good one. Conditions are effectively the difference between him being a dangerous frontline bowler and a part-time relief bowler.

 

[cnerd123]

Derek Underwood
George Lohmann
Jesse Ryder the bowler

 

[TheJediBrah]

Keep in mind folks that cricket is a conditions dependent sport.

Some players are much more "dependent" on them than others though, hence the thread

Discussing which bowlers are/were least conditions-dependent might be an interesting exercise actually. Probably most spinners to some extent you would say depend on turning wickets. Exception I can think of maybe Vettori and Nathan Lyon? Ashwin is improving. Even Warne and Murali were trash in India and Australia respectively.

 

[Chubb]

Mominul is a massive home track bully, but he'd still be in the ATG Bangladesh team. Think his average outside the subcontinent is under 23. Outside Bangladesh barely higher.

 

[trundler]

Vettori and Nathan Lyon?

They're like 6 to 7.5/10 ~most~ of the time regardless of conditions. A guy like Herath will win you way more matches in helpful conditions and that's arguably preferable in a real world scenario IMO.

 

[TheJediBrah]

They're like 6 to 7.5/10 ~most~ of the time regardless of conditions. A guy like Herath will win you way more matches in helpful conditions and that's arguably preferable in a real world scenario IMO.

Oh definitely. I'm not saying that Vettori or Lyon are better than Ashwin, Jadeja, or Herath by any means. Just that they have a more consistent standard of performances across different conditions.

 

[Prince EWS]

Some players are much more "dependent" on them than others though, hence the thread

Discussing which bowlers are/were least conditions-dependent might be an interesting exercise actually. Probably most spinners to some extent you would say depend on turning wickets. Exception I can think of maybe Vettori and Nathan Lyon? Ashwin is improving. Even Warne and Murali were trash in India and Australia respectively.

I actually think Vettori was relatively conditions-dependent, at least in term of actually being threatening. He built pressure well enough otherwise, but he actually averaged 37 at home (and 40 in Australia, 64 in South Africa, compared to 28 in Asia).

Lyon's a good example though. If anything I think Australia would probably trade some of his ability to be solid on non-turning tracks for a few more big hauls in the fourth innings and in Asia tbh.

 

[Daemon]

Lyon's a good example though. If anything I think Australia would probably trade some of his ability to be solid on non-turning tracks for a few more big hauls in the fourth innings and in Asia tbh.

I think he already has the Asia thing locked down in his skillset atm but he just hasn't had the chance to showcase it very often ever since it took a turn starting with the 2017 BG in India.

He did very well in that series and against Bangladesh in the series that followed immediately after.

Since then he's only played one two test series against Pakistan in the UAE and nothing else in Asia at all.

 

[sunilz]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Sehwag till now.
Bradman in Asia to Mike Atherton outside Asia.

 

[Kirkut]

Sehwag is a walking wicket against anything that bounces above the waist level and moves laterally either in air or off the pitch.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Surprised nobody has mentioned Sehwag till now.
Bradman in Asia to Mike Atherton outside Asia.

Sehwag is a walking wicket against anything that bounces above the waist level and moves laterally either in air or off the pitch.

He was pretty good in Australia. It was more the sideways movement that ****ed him rather than bounce.