Best Test Team In The World?

[Jono]

There is a difference between a champion no. 1 side, and a just no.1 side. Nobody claimed India is a side like Australia was or WI was. But they are still no.1 in their class.

Just amazing how this simple fact doesn't go into people's heads. No one is saying India are a dominating team. But **** me, Dhoni hasn't lost a series yet FFS.

Ah well, love that most people wish we didn't win yesterday, and are trying to pretend it was nothing.

 

[Ikki]

You've only played England and Sri Lanka away from home in terms of teams that are challenging though, TBF. At home you've always been strong. I think the Indian fans don't seem to understand either: no one is disputing you're ranked #1. It's just that the grand majority - in this poll's case ~82% of voters - don't think you're actually the best team in the world.

 

[kingpin]

We are no best team in the world but we are no.1 in the world...


At present no one's best Their will be musical chairs b/n top 4......

 

[Jono]

You've only played England and Sri Lanka away from home in terms of teams that are challenging though, TBF. At home you've always been strong. I think the Indian fans don't seem to understand either: no one is disputing you're ranked #1. It's just that the grand majority - in this poll's case ~82% of voters - don't think you're actually the best team in the world.

And I'm absolutely fine with that, it's not a silly opinion to have. Any Indian fan who thinks its silly are themselves wrong.

But the most predictable thing in the world was for you to come into this thread and dismiss India's win yesterday as meaning very little, and then Sir Alex to get fired up about it and respond.

CW has become like a book I've already read 50 times.

 

[Ikki]

Personally, I think it's expected of the side that has ambitions to be #1 to tie a series away from home even with an understrength attack. I just disagreed with it being a monumental achievement. I think having that attitude, from an Indian fan, to such a result in itself just shows why a lot of people don't rate India.

I think the point you make is fine, but I reckon you're one of a handful of people that get it. I think the others genuinely get upset at almost any critique of the side. Even if they don't show it or argue, you can tell they're way too damn sensitive as if someone asked them to give up their inheritance (to use a Persian saying).

 

[Jono]

At the start of the series I would have been a little bit disappointed with 1-1.

Howeve after losing every toss, having an unfit Zaheer and Harbhajan, and after Day 1 and Day 2 of the 3rd test, no one thought India were going to win this test, because of their bowling lineup. However they brought them back.

Then at the end of Day 4 not many thought India could chase that down considering they'd already lost 3 wickets, but they did it with ease, despite the wicket being tough. Sure Sanga's captaincy helped, but Yousuf's captaincy helped Australia, didn't take away from that win in sydney.

And one person said it was monumental FFS. Not everyone, and not a majority. One person said it, you replied, and 4 others joked about why it was monumental. Then you took that post seriously and decided to critique again.

And the Indian fans expectations actually don't have anything to do with the cold hard facts of how the team is going. it never has, and it never will. When we expected to do well in the 2007 World Cup, it didn't make us a good team. The fact we didn't expect to do well in this test, and did, doesn't make us a bad team. The fans are irrelevant.

EDIT: I also think some 'sensitive' fans on here react to you because your blatant bias against India. It's no different to why some English and Australian fans crack it at Sir Alex. They're not 'sensitive', they just are annoyed.

 

[DingDong]

india definately now that they drew in sl

 

[Teja.]

india definately now that they drew in sl

DingDong says it. It must be true!

 

[Jono]

He is the authority of everything

 

[Shri]

No India can't win even a test in SL without Sachin and Sehwag. Harbajan was useless in the series and Ghambir was Malinga's bunny. The reason why India were even able to draw was because Murali retired after the first test.

Idiotic post. He faced 5 balls in the series ffs.

 

[Shri]

Let's be honest, if your team lacks the depth to cover when you have some injured players, and are ecstatic at drawing a series against a team which lost it's greatest player ever, you're not a very strong team. Or rather one befitting a side that is "the best in the world".

Did you get your sense of humor thingy at walmart?

 

[vcs]

At the start of the series I would have been a little bit disappointed with 1-1.

Howeve after losing every toss, having an unfit Zaheer and Harbhajan, and after Day 1 and Day 2 of the 3rd test, no one thought India were going to win this test, because of their bowling lineup. However they brought them back.

Then at the end of Day 4 not many thought India could chase that down considering they'd already lost 3 wickets, but they did it with ease, despite the wicket being tough. Sure Sanga's captaincy helped, but Yousuf's captaincy helped Australia, didn't take away from that win in sydney.

And one person said it was monumental FFS. Not everyone, and not a majority. One person said it, you replied, and 4 others joked about why it was monumental. Then you took that post seriously and decided to critique again.

And the Indian fans expectations actually don't have anything to do with the cold hard facts of how the team is going. it never has, and it never will. When we expected to do well in the 2007 World Cup, it didn't make us a good team. The fact we didn't expect to do well in this test, and did, doesn't make us a bad team. The fans are irrelevant.

EDIT: I also think some 'sensitive' fans on here react to you because your blatant bias against India. It's no different to why some English and Australian fans crack it at Sir Alex. They're not 'sensitive', they just are annoyed.

AWTA. Good post.

And yeah, we're all biased but that shouldn't stop us from giving credit where it's due to certain teams or individuals, even if we don't like them.

 

[Jono]

I don't think they need to give credit. Couldn't care less what Ikki thinks of India. I'm sure most don't care what Sir Alex things of England.

But they need to stop whinging if people respond to their post, and not cry "omg you're sensitive"

That being said, people should also not reply to the guys who say the same **** over and over. Was annoyed when people replied to Ikki saying India are crap to watch. Who cares? Just leave him be.

 

[Sir Alex]

Alright Jono, I stand chastised.

 

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[Ikki]

EDIT: I also think some 'sensitive' fans on here react to you because your blatant bias against India. It's no different to why some English and Australian fans crack it at Sir Alex. They're not 'sensitive', they just are annoyed.

I knew Shri was kidding but I thought there was some truth to his post in that the Indians really were excusing themselves for a lack of bowling depth. Maybe I took that a bit far, I have been wrong before and it won't be the last time.

As for the above; where is my blatant bias against India? Because I say Ponting is better than Sachin? I actually like the Indian team - I actually really like Dravid and Sehwag amongst your players, and still think Sharma could be a breakthrough for India. I've mentioned here several times the only reason I actually root against them is because of her fans.

 

[Jono]

Don't really care whether you think Ponting is better. But you said blatantly in the SL series thread that Sehwag is the only player that makes India watchable. And then people responded, and we had another **** fight.

Now I figured you were telling the truth in that post (which you're entitled to do, as I defended your right to post that in the thread). But if you weren't telling the truth, you were trolling, which is probably worse.

 

[Ikki]

I meant in this series. Dravid's off form, your bowlers are off tilt or not there, same with Gambhir, and the only one really forcing a result is Sehwag. Last few times I've watched India I've been bored with the exception of watching Dravid bat and Sehwag murder attacks. I'd probably enjoy watching Tendulkar more but I know the more he scores the more the forum will be spammed with "Tendulkar is god" or the like. After I made that post Laxman had a wonderful inning too so you can add him.

My point was generally I don't have much against your players, with the exception of probably Harbhajan. I am more indifferent than anything. If anything makes me react negatively towards them it's India's fans. I love the culture of the people, heck want to go there ASAP and see it up close for myself...but the cricket fans...sheesh.

 

[bagapath]

If anything makes me react negatively towards them it's India's fans. I love the culture of the people, heck want to go there ASAP and see it up close for myself...but the cricket fans...sheesh.

dont let your irritation show so obviously; it will give an indian fan the same pleasure ganguly derived in making steve waugh wait at the toss again and again.

back on topic... india has beaten australia, pakistan, england, new zealand and west indies the last time the teams clashed. nz and WI were away series. india beat england in england also. it has drawn with south africa and sri lanka. and it beat sri lanka in the earlier series. no one has beaten india in the last two years. so i don't see any other team as a contender for the no.1 tag. icc rankings are bang on, as always. of course, india don't deserve to be the no.1 team with this kind of a pathetic bowling attack. but it is the responsibility of other teams to win consistently and take the title from them. till then.... india will be ****y for being the no.1 team in the world. and why should they not be?

 

[bagapath]

Personally I don't care what type of pitches are prepared so long as they can be reasonably expected to produce a result.

that is correct. blaming a particular kind of wicket as an excuse is pathetic. as pathetic as indians blaming australian tactics in the acrimonious sydney test for their loss. a good team is supposed to play well under all conditions against any opposition.