Best player most people don't know about?

[GoodAreasShane]

Title is pretty self explanatory really, who's the best cricketer you have ever seen or known that nobody ever truly remembers?

Anyone who has played more than a dozen international games (Test, ODI, T20I) is automatically excluded. Playing for your national team in non internationally recognised cricket however is fine. Isolation era South Africans are unavailable if they participated in any of the rebel tours, but available otherwise

 

[mr_mister]

On this forum everyone knows everyone

In the real world Aubrey Faulkner is the ATG your casual fan is least likely to have ever heard of imo

 

[Daemon]

Faulkner is a good shout. Barry Richards?

 

[GoodAreasShane]

On this forum everyone knows everyone

In the real world Aubrey Faulkner is the ATG your casual fan is least likely to have ever heard of imo

I was meaning more in terms of players who aren't truly known among the domestic cricket scene in their own country, but it's a fair point but for someone who had such a good career, Faulkner isn't really thought of much.

Part of that comes down to the era, but from personal experience he is a cricketer thoroughly worth reading about

 

[mr_mister]

@Daemon No plenty of people have heard of Barry I think

 

[Dan]

It took me a long, long time to hear of Phil Mead, which seems weird for a guy with a Test average of 47 and over 55,000 FC runs and who wasn't exactly coming from an era where his contemporaries were also unheard of.

 

[StephenZA]

On this forum everyone knows everyone

In the real world Aubrey Faulkner is the ATG your casual fan is least likely to have ever heard of imo

Faulkner is a good shout. Barry Richards?

Outside SA and even inside SA I find that Dudley Nourse is the least known SA great.

 

[trundler]

Melville carved out a decent little test career too

 

[Prince EWS]

Alfred Mynn. Absolute hero. One of the greatest cricketers of all time IMO.

 

[trundler]

It took me a long, long time to hear of Phil Mead, which seems weird for a guy with a Test average of 47 and over 55,000 FC runs and who wasn't exactly coming from an era where his contemporaries were also unheard of.

I dug through his record to see what was going on with a guy with 150 FC centuries and a test average of 49 playing only 17 tests in all. Looks like the war screwed him over. But even then Hendren and Hobbs played way more.

 

[srbhkshk]

Going by popularity in their own nation, probably Bart King.

 

[Prince EWS]

Outside SA and even inside SA I find that Dudley Nourse is the least known SA great.

For years on CW I actually included him in my ATG XI. Even now I'd probably still put him in the Second XI. Hero.

Definitely played more than a dozen games though.

 

[trundler]

Hayward looks like one of the first ATG test batsmen but is rarely mentioned as such

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Hayward looks like one of the first ATG test batsmen but is rarely mentioned as such

Genuinely thought you were talking about Nantie for a second, briefly wondered of you had completely taken leave of your senses

 

[ankitj]

Outside SA and even inside SA I find that Dudley Nourse is the least known SA great.

For years on CW I actually included him in my ATG XI. Even now I'd probably still put him in the Second XI. Hero.

Definitely played more than a dozen games though.

Came here to mention Nourse. IIRC he ranked in top 30 in DoG's (greatest, bestest and most authoritative) batsmen rankings.

@PEWS - you put Nourse in SA ATG XI or world ATG XI?

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Mathadevan Sathasivam

 

[Prince EWS]

world ATG XI?

World.

Not anymore, but I did for a time (or he just missed out for Hammond; it's hard to remember my old opinions sometimes, but he was definitely in the running and in the top 10 bats of all time).

He's still definitely in my Saffa one.

 

[Teja.]

Herbie Taylor

 

[ataraxia]

Dave Nourse another shout.

Overshadowed by Faulkner.

 

[trundler]

Glenn Turner too imo