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Australia: one man team

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think Ponting, Hayden, Gilchritst, Hussey and Lee might disagree with this argument...Mind you they won today with him (but he didn't finish his spell. He was clutching his hamstring). The Aussies thought he would be their answer to Flintoff. He is. He's an allrounder who can't stay fit either....:laugh:
Exactly. Watson played and Australia were back to their brutal best. He's so good he doesn't even have to play well; he just has to be there.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Quite the opposite, from the little attention I've been paying. Some of the Twenty20 "specialists" seem to have been among few to have performed for England in this tournament. It's the Test players who've not done much.
Test cricketers were England’s best performers… KP topped the batting averages whilst Anderson and Flintoff were England’s best bowlers, in regards to wickets and economy.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well considering England only picked about three Test regulars in their top order, and Colly has had a terrible series. I'm guessing most of them will be ODI or twenty/20 specialist. A fairly tenuous defence of a clearly wrong statement, IMHO.

Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?
 
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Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?
Prior and Collingwood are the two I can think of. I suppose you could say Flintoff's batting and Broad as a bowler.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Well considering England only picked about three Test regulars in their top order, and Colly has had a terrible series. I'm guessing most of them will be ODI or twenty/20 specialist. A fairly tenuous defence of a clearly wrong statement, IMHO.

Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?
I'm more bothered about "Twenty20 specialists" who didn't fail really.
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Prior and Collingwood are the two I can think of. I suppose you could say Flintoff's batting and Broad as a bowler.

Well, Broad hasn't played Tests yet. Freddies batted as well as he has in Tests recently.

You have a point with Prior.

The Test players did better then the Twenty/20 specialists in general, though. Shah and Mascarenas are now regulars in the ODI team, which was why they were in the squad.

Snape, Maddy, Kirtley all had negligible tournaments. Wright was shocking.. Schofield did OK, but as has been said, he wasn't one of the top bowlers.
 
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Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well, Broad hasn't played Tests yet. Freddies batted as well as he has in Tests recently.

You have a point with Prior.

The Test players did better then the Twenty/20 specialists in general, though. Shah and Mascarenas are now regulars in the ODI team, which was why they were in the squad.

Snape, Maddy, Kirtley all had negligible tournaments. Schofield did OK, but as has been said, he wasn't one of the top bowlers.
Broad hasn't played Tests yet? Oversight on my behalf, too much damn English cricket lately :ph34r:

Maddy had a average tournament, when you consider the team he was playing in, while Schofield was your third best bowler.
 
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grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Broad hasn't played Tests yet? Oversight on my behalf, too much damn English cricket lately :ph34r:

Maddy had a average tournament, when you consider the team he was playing in, while Schofield was your third best bowler.
Yes, Schofield was third best behind two Test bowlers, which is kind of the point. The Test players have done better in general then twenty/20 specialists. Not International class, tbh. Proving bit-and-pieces players aren't the best thing for twenty/20s.
 

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