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4th June - Group B - India v Pakistan

Who will win this match?


  • Total voters
    22

James

Cricket Web Owner
Sun Jun 4 (50 ovs) 10:30 local (09:30 GMT | 19:30 AEST | 19:00 ACST | 17:30 AWST)

Group B - India v Pakistan
Edgbaston, Birmingham
 

harsh.ag

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Birmingham's as good a place as any to give 'em a shellacking. After Kashmir, I mean.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
^are you gambhiring early?
No, Pakistan has a chance. Kohli is out of form. Dhoni is old. Yuvraj will struggle if exposed to new ball. Coming straight from IPL, all Indian batsmen lack ODI match practice. Babar, Sarfraz, Shoaib, Imad, Shadab, Amir, Hasan are all fine LO cricketers. This is Pakistan's best chance in last 15 years or so.
 
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centurymaker

International Captain
Have a strong feeling that India will lose.


But it won't matter even if they happen to win. Feels like just another game tbh, idk why.
 

OverratedSanity

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It's not the WC, so Pak definitely have a chance. We'll probably win anyway but if we don't we still have the streak so suck it, Pakistan.
 

tobe_ornot2

Banned
No, Pakistan has a chance. Kohli is out of form. Dhoni is old. Yuvraj will struggle if exposed to new ball. Coming straight from IPL, all Indian batsmen lack ODI match practice. Babar, Sarfraz, Shoaib, Imad, Shadab, Amir, Hasan are all fine LO cricketers. This is Pakistan's best chance in last 15 years or so.
Pakistan are 2-1 in the lead when it comes to CT matches so the 15 year stat is irrelevant. Plus Pakistan won the last time the two sides met in a bilateral series, so there is a lot of confidence to gain from knowing all of that.

My concern is that Pakistan's batting line up is still fragile enough that it will be hard for Sarfraz to decide on whether to bat first or second if he wins the toss. It's a poisoned chalice in my opinion.
 

OverratedSanity

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Worst run of form in his career and about to play in the country where Bhuvneshar Kumar has a batting average twice as good... don't know what you're talking about.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
No, Pakistan has a chance. Kohli is out of form. Dhoni is old. Yuvraj will struggle if exposed to new ball. Coming straight from IPL, all Indian batsmen lack ODI match practice. Babar, Sarfraz, Shoaib, Imad, Shadab, Amir, Hasan are all fine LO cricketers. This is Pakistan's best chance in last 15 years or so.
Have you seen Pakistan play in ODIs recently?

Ok this is a good example that sums up the difference in the two ODI sides

On 15th January, Pakistan were playing Australia in the 2nd ODI chasing 220 in 50 overs.
2nd ODI: Australia v Pakistan at Melbourne, Jan 15, 2017 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

India were playing England in the 1st ODI, chasing 350.
1st ODI: India v England at Pune, Jan 15, 2017 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo



The WinViz for India was 55% and Pakistan 58%


Pakistan are 2-1 up in CT but those two wins came in 2004 and 2009 which makes them largely irrelevant .The state of the game and the teams were totally different and a Pakistan team of Inzy, Moyo, Malik, Shoaib, Razzaq was not all that behind an Indian team of Ganguly, Dravid, Tendulkar, Dhoni, Irfan.

ODI cricket in 2017 is vastly different from what it was in 2009 and India is a very different team to what they were in 2009. For starters, their bowling is much better, even stronger than Pakistan's and no one really thought this day was coming.
 

tobe_ornot2

Banned
Averages about 30 and what makes it worse is that 6 of his 10 innings against England in England have been of scores less than 20. I think his average will improve now, considering he will be batting against a weak SL attack.
 

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