Domestic Twenty20?

Mr Mxyzptlk · 10-05-2008, 05:20 AM

Okay. This is to officially gauge the voice of the people on this matter. To date we have only catered for T20 in the odd tour match, club cricket and, of course, the IPL. But there are a couple of (rather imperfect) options to run it domestically.

Option 1:
VC4. There can be no in-game changes of batting order or aggression, and only a pre-set bowling order. The stats would obviously be adjusted for T20esque results, which would come out looking like the IPL/club cricket stuff

Option 2:
HODI. Only the first 20 overs will be played, then the sim can be restarted and the other team would face 20 overs on the same pitch, with the same prevailing conditions. There will also have to be an adjustment of stats here to get T20 scoring rates, and with it some careful testing of the process.

Let's hear your voice then.

Majin · 10-05-2008, 05:30 AM

Yeah sounds good man, from what i've seen so far VC4 has been pretty good so I could live with that. Obviously if something better comes along then we could use it, but VC4 is fine for now.

Jamee999 · 10-05-2008, 05:41 AM

I'm very sceptical about any sim which can't be manually controlled.

Mister Wright · 10-05-2008, 05:56 AM

AWTA.

However, if it is a very short, perhaps preseason competition where there is maybe one or two rounds it could be feasible.

NZTailender · 10-05-2008, 06:40 AM

Yes, and with VC4. It'll mean greater management will be needed in the initial picking of a bowling line up. Though there could be problems if players join a team halfway through a season. Though that could be combated simply by having quarter-by-quarter databases.

Or an 'all-at-once' competition that breaks up the Dev League Season at the halfway point. With games each day the whole thing could be run over a week (including finals) depending on the number of times you want each team to play each other.

pinchy81 · 10-05-2008, 06:57 AM

Would like to see DT20 tbh

chaminda_00 · 10-05-2008, 07:01 AM

If you use VC4, all the matches need to be played in a short period for it to work.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 10-05-2008, 07:02 AM

Not really. I don't see why it would need to be.

chaminda_00 · 10-05-2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

Not really. I don't see why it would need to be.

There not really an option to add in new players, unless ofcourse you update the database as you go and keep the stats seperately. But a long Twenty20 comp, using VC4 could get quite boring pretty fast. Would probably be better just having a short Twenty20 season and all the matches together, until a better sim comes through.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 10-05-2008, 07:18 AM

It would not be a long competition, but it could (and should IMO) be held in at least two parts across the season. One at the start perhaps and then a second half midseason. And given that format, there would have to be the option to add players.

dontcloseyoureyes · 10-05-2008, 07:21 AM

I like the "play it all at mid-season" option personally.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 10-05-2008, 07:34 AM

The reason I'd like to have a few games before the start of the season proper is to get a look at how it's all working and make any adjustments to the format of the comp if needs be.

cpr · 10-05-2008, 08:25 AM

VC4 isnt exactly the most ideal sim, especially not for 20/20, however it sounds marginally better than stopping a 50 over sim after 20 and starting again. Feel we should have a 20/20 comp for completeness really, and yeah, VC is the lesser of the two evils.

Scheduling doesnt really bother me though

GIMH · 10-05-2008, 08:48 AM

Yes would like to see T20, I seem to be quite good at it

Johnners · 10-05-2008, 09:12 AM

Would love to see it in either of the options suggested (2 parts in the year, or all at once mid-season). VC4 seems to work fine for IPL despite it's limitations, and looks a much better option than having to stop halfway through and restart the sim.

View Poll Results: Domestic T20?
Yes, with VC4...	21	67.74%
Yes, with HODI...	5	16.13%
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10-05-2008, 05:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	Domestic Twenty20? Okay. This is to officially gauge the voice of the people on this matter. To date we have only catered for T20 in the odd tour match, club cricket and, of course, the IPL. But there are a couple of (rather imperfect) options to run it domestically. Option 1: VC4. There can be no in-game changes of batting order or aggression, and only a pre-set bowling order. The stats would obviously be adjusted for T20esque results, which would come out looking like the IPL/club cricket stuff Option 2: HODI. Only the first 20 overs will be played, then the sim can be restarted and the other team would face 20 overs on the same pitch, with the same prevailing conditions. There will also have to be an adjustment of stats here to get T20 scoring rates, and with it some careful testing of the process. Let's hear your voice then. __________________ Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend." The Blog The Portfolio The...er...Twitter

10-05-2008, 05:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jamee999 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leicestershire, UK Posts: 15,068	I'm very sceptical about any sim which can't be manually controlled. __________________ Or something. RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1/11/1990 - 15/4/2006

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NZTailender Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand Posts: 19,046	Yes, and with VC4. It'll mean greater management will be needed in the initial picking of a bowling line up. Though there could be problems if players join a team halfway through a season. Though that could be combated simply by having quarter-by-quarter databases. Or an 'all-at-once' competition that breaks up the Dev League Season at the halfway point. With games each day the whole thing could be run over a week (including finals) depending on the number of times you want each team to play each other. __________________ President of SKAS - Kat is King \| Proud member of CVAAS - One of the best \| LRPLTAS - Rosco rocks! The NZTailender Supporting XI: L Vincent, H Rutherford, N Broom, Craig Cachopa, D Brownlie, BJ Watling, D de Boorder+, I Sodhi, B Wheeler, H Bennett, A Milne Go Tigers! R.I.P. Fardin & Craig Last edited by NZTailender; 10-05-2008 at 06:42 AM.

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10-05-2008, 05:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Majin International Debutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: England Posts: 2,784	Yeah sounds good man, from what i've seen so far VC4 has been pretty good so I could live with that. Obviously if something better comes along then we could use it, but VC4 is fine for now.

10-05-2008, 07:02 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	Not really. I don't see why it would need to be.

10-05-2008, 07:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	It would not be a long competition, but it could (and should IMO) be held in at least two parts across the season. One at the start perhaps and then a second half midseason. And given that format, there would have to be the option to add players.

10-05-2008, 07:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
dontcloseyoureyes BARNES OUT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WILDCARD, BITCHES Posts: 27,719	I like the "play it all at mid-season" option personally. __________________ The one, the only CW Black Code: 47.3 W Coppinger to Heads Smacked the ball straight into the groin of Iwuajoku who has fallen over, miraculously with the ball still caught in his scrotal area! Out! TO OUR FOREFATHERS

10-05-2008, 07:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mr Mxyzptlk Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Trinidad and Tobago (Trinidad) Posts: 36,795	The reason I'd like to have a few games before the start of the season proper is to get a look at how it's all working and make any adjustments to the format of the comp if needs be.

10-05-2008, 08:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,622	Yes would like to see T20, I seem to be quite good at it __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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