Selective Ignoring or Banning

BoyBrumby · 01-05-2012, 12:01 PM

It's occurred to me that some otherwise perfectly decent posters do talk absolute pigswill about certain topics ad nauseam. This is probably completely impractical, but is there any way that when they could be banned from further comment on the subject or maybe have the post checked by a mod before they post about it? I won't name names, but if any poster's hobbyhorses spring to mind then you're probably thinking along the same lines as me.

Is there a way of maybe having certain words or phrases trigger a warning email to mods or invoking the ignore function?

weeman27bob · 01-05-2012, 12:16 PM

Standardised averages.

Fusion · 01-05-2012, 12:34 PM

IMHO, it would be impractical to do this. First, I think it will be pretty easy to get around certain words that may trigger a mod review. Second, I would be very uneasy with the censorship aspect of it. If a member is not breaking the forum rules, then I wouldn't want to prevent them from discussing a topic. If they are trolling by discussing said topic, then someone will report them and they'll be infracted.

Sadly I think the best recourse people have in this situation is to put the member on ignore, or skip the posts that you find "annoying".

BoyBrumby · 01-05-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

IMHO, it would be impractical to do this. First, I think it will be pretty easy to get around certain words that may trigger a mod review. Second, I would be very uneasy with the censorship aspect of it. If a member is not breaking the forum rules, then I wouldn't want to prevent them from discussing a topic. If they are trolling by discussing said topic, then someone will report them and they'll be infracted.

Sadly I think the best recourse people have in this situation is to put the member on ignore, or skip the posts that you find "annoying".

Guessed it was a no go. Thanks for answering, anyway.

The thing is some posters are really good when they're kept away from their bete noires so I'm loath to have them on a blanket ignore as I have with others.

sledger · 01-05-2012, 12:46 PM

What about blocking people from certain threads after a spate of irksome behaviour? Pretty sure that's feasible, technically at least.

GIMH · 01-05-2012, 01:03 PM

Happens on cricsim anyway. Doesn't really fit the CW culture I'd have thought.

For the record, ever since I took on the mammoth task of reading the Ashes 05 thread about six years ago, I've thought it would be useful to have a thread ignore option. As Brumby himself would say, no names no pack drill etc etc

Prince EWS · 01-05-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sledger

What about blocking people from certain threads after a spate of irksome behaviour? Pretty sure that's feasible, technically at least.

We'd have to install a plugin to do that and as has been pointed out before, James doesn't want to install any more plugins until he upgrades the forum to vB4. They make it a lot harder to complete upgrades in general.

I'm also not convinced it'd work very well here anyway, especially considering how our moderation decisions are actually made. We discuss all decisions as a moderation group before taking action, and if it took two days to remove someone from a thread it'd be a bit pointless. It works better on forums where the moderators have individual autonomy and the members don't demand the respect and fairness that they do here. It's an "unruly child" type punishment really, and I think it'd cause more harm than it'd be worth here.

sledger · 01-05-2012, 01:05 PM

I imagine the existence of such a feature would probably result in me being debarred from CC as well.

Prince EWS · 01-05-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sledger

I imagine the existence of such a feature would probably result in me being debarred from CC as well.

Well we could do that even without that feature. Access mask editing can see you booted from a subforum.

Food for thought.

sledger · 01-05-2012, 01:15 PM

A DDoS attack can see everyone booted from the entire forum.

Food for thought.

GIMH · 01-05-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

We'd have to install a plugin to do that and as has been pointed out before, James doesn't want to install any more plugins until he upgrades the forum to vB4. They make it a lot harder to complete upgrades in general.

I'm also not convinced it'd work very well here anyway, especially considering how our moderation decisions are actually made. We discuss all decisions as a moderation group before taking action, and if it took two days to remove someone from a thread it'd be a bit pointless. It works better on forums where the moderators have individual autonomy and the members don't demand the respect and fairness that they do here. It's an "unruly child" type punishment really, and I think it'd cause more harm than it'd be worth here.

Unruly child? But but you gave that punishment to me!!

Prince EWS · 01-05-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GIMH

Unruly child? But but you gave that punishment to me!!

In a thread that asked for forum suggestions and, in the first post, pointed out that joke replies would be given infractions, you made the following suggestions:

- Remove the option to post in green text
- Add a wanking gif as a smiley option
- Make Heef king of the forum

Unruly child just about summed that up.

Howe_zat · 01-05-2012, 01:51 PM

sledger · 01-05-2012, 02:01 PM

Haha, that's fantastic.

HeathDavisSpeed · 01-05-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

- Make Heef king of the forum

Unruly child just about summed that up.

What's childish about that simple request, pray tell?

01-05-2012, 12:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,615	Selective Ignoring or Banning It's occurred to me that some otherwise perfectly decent posters do talk absolute pigswill about certain topics ad nauseam. This is probably completely impractical, but is there any way that when they could be banned from further comment on the subject or maybe have the post checked by a mod before they post about it? I won't name names, but if any poster's hobbyhorses spring to mind then you're probably thinking along the same lines as me. Is there a way of maybe having certain words or phrases trigger a warning email to mods or invoking the ignore function? __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,598	Happens on cricsim anyway. Doesn't really fit the CW culture I'd have thought. For the record, ever since I took on the mammoth task of reading the Ashes 05 thread about six years ago, I've thought it would be useful to have a thread ignore option. As Brumby himself would say, no names no pack drill etc etc __________________ Watch out, for as soon as it pleases them they’ll send you out to protect their gold in wars whose weapons, rapidly developed by servile scientists, will become more and more deadly until they can with a flick of the finger tear a million of you to pieces RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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