Daemon's ban

Howe_zat · 12-09-2011, 03:51 AM

The more I think about Daemon's ban the more it seems massively harsh to me. Before I begin, I want to make a couple of things clear:

1. I don't usually argue with bans. One man's trolling is another man's arguing and it's not my decision which is which.

2. The link Daemon posted was absolutely not appropriate and needed deleting.

My gripe is that, once the link was deleted, did the site really gain anything out of banning Daemon for a month? It seems quite clear that, as a poster with no infractions and no history of troublemaking, Daemon wasn't attempting to defy the rules for the heck of it. He just posted something he thought was interesting and rather stupidly didn't consider how other people might react.

Now, if this had been the latest in a long string of posting indecent content, it'd be fair to say we'd be better off without him. But it wasn't, and I'm sure that if you'd simply deleted the link and given the lad a strong talking to, and perhaps an infraction, he'd know he'd gone over the line on content and wouldn't post like that again.

As it is I think we've lost a good forumer, perhaps permanantly, and what bothers me is that it could have been me. I don't think he posted it with the intention of causing distress, and so a member has essentially been banned for making a mistake.

GotSpin · 12-09-2011, 03:55 AM

Why didn't you email the moderators? Gosh

Spikey · 12-09-2011, 04:01 AM

if it was just something like

Ruined:
(link to img)

then yeah i agree. but i wasn't there

Bun · 12-09-2011, 04:05 AM

Hmm.. the content was absolutely gross. Akin to posting links to sexually explicit sites imho. But I think he was inebriated (the link had mention of 6 pints or something like that)

readie · 12-09-2011, 04:27 AM

CW get's its knickers in a knot over ****ing nothing. Main reason I hardly post here. Probably better quality cricket discussion than where I post now but I can't speak liberally enough.

biased indian · 12-09-2011, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by readie

CW get's its knickers in a knot over ****ing nothing. Main reason I hardly post here. Probably better quality cricket discussion than where I post now but I can't speak liberally enough.

thank god you dont post here more

that avatar is giving me a head ache
don't comment about my avatar...its not by my choice

agree with howe on daemon's case

duffer · 12-09-2011, 04:45 AM

The forum has a pretty clear culture associated with it. Spend a day on here and it's apparent that posting links to cannablistic **** is not going to cut it. Must be ****ed in the head to even contemplate something like that.

Expect a multi soon though.

GotSpin · 12-09-2011, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bun

Hmm.. the content was absolutely gross. Akin to posting links to sexually explicit sites imho. But I think he was inebriated (the link had mention of 6 pints or something like that)

Bun, do you reckon you could repost the link here. I haven't seen it. Cheers

Bun · 12-09-2011, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotSpin

Bun, do you reckon you could repost the link here. I haven't seen it. Cheers

Sure no problem, VM me your password.

Cevno · 12-09-2011, 05:03 AM

Agree with Howe on this.

The link posted was absolutely dire and sadistic but still, For just posting a link,a one month ban is harsh specially to a regular member who hasn't even been infracted before. Maybe one or 2 week would have sufficed, specially since he is not likely to do it again and realizes his mistake.

Howe_zat · 12-09-2011, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotSpin

Bun, do you reckon you could repost the link here. I haven't seen it. Cheers

He posted it in the "TLET" thread on cricsim, that's where I saw it.

GIMH · 12-09-2011, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howe_zat

He posted it in the "TLET" thread on cricsim, that's where I saw it.

Think you've missed a trick there Jake

Flem274* · 12-09-2011, 05:15 AM

Hey guys, your thoughts have been duly noted and raised in the moderator subforum.

Thanks for the feedback, we do appreciate it and a good forum needs members who are active in site politics.

I can't voice my own thoughts on the ban specifically because the moderation team work as a unified front, but I think Howe makes some excellent points in the original post.

Marcuss · 12-09-2011, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duffer

The forum has a pretty clear culture associated with it. Spend a day on here and it's apparent that posting links to cannablistic **** is not going to cut it. Must be ****ed in the head to even contemplate something like that.

Expect a multi soon though.

Nah, wouldn't expect that at all.

duffer · 12-09-2011, 05:18 AM

You didn't expect us to sell Cesc did you?

12-09-2011, 03:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,886	Daemon's ban The more I think about Daemon's ban the more it seems massively harsh to me. Before I begin, I want to make a couple of things clear: 1. I don't usually argue with bans. One man's trolling is another man's arguing and it's not my decision which is which. 2. The link Daemon posted was absolutely not appropriate and needed deleting. My gripe is that, once the link was deleted, did the site really gain anything out of banning Daemon for a month? It seems quite clear that, as a poster with no infractions and no history of troublemaking, Daemon wasn't attempting to defy the rules for the heck of it. He just posted something he thought was interesting and rather stupidly didn't consider how other people might react. Now, if this had been the latest in a long string of posting indecent content, it'd be fair to say we'd be better off without him. But it wasn't, and I'm sure that if you'd simply deleted the link and given the lad a strong talking to, and perhaps an infraction, he'd know he'd gone over the line on content and wouldn't post like that again. As it is I think we've lost a good forumer, perhaps permanantly, and what bothers me is that it could have been me. I don't think he posted it with the intention of causing distress, and so a member has essentially been banned for making a mistake. __________________ Maybe we wouldn't be so quick to fill buckets with filth if we knew they had a soul. Or maybe that's what they're into. Ain't no way to get inside a bucket's mind.

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12-09-2011, 04:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	The forum has a pretty clear culture associated with it. Spend a day on here and it's apparent that posting links to cannablistic ** is not going to cut it. Must be **ed in the head to even contemplate something like that. Expect a multi soon though. __________________ We talking about practice

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12-09-2011, 04:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bun Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Under the tree Posts: 3,116	Hmm.. the content was absolutely gross. Akin to posting links to sexually explicit sites imho. But I think he was inebriated (the link had mention of 6 pints or something like that)

12-09-2011, 05:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cevno International Coach Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: India Posts: 14,940	Agree with Howe on this. The link posted was absolutely dire and sadistic but still, For just posting a link,a one month ban is harsh specially to a regular member who hasn't even been infracted before. Maybe one or 2 week would have sufficed, specially since he is not likely to do it again and realizes his mistake.

12-09-2011, 05:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
duffer International Coach Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: So appalled... Posts: 11,338	You didn't expect us to sell Cesc did you?

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