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steds · 22-11-2005, 06:51 AM

Yesterday, I was asked by Neil to remove my avatar - a picture of the cover of the Sex Pistols album, Never Mind the ******** - one the grounds that it contains a naughty word. I duly removed said avatar because I'm a good little boy, but I'm ****ed off by it and would like to dispute it.
Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I can't see the ****ing problem with it. This word that is not used in an offensive way, or any coherent way at all. If you can make any sense out of the phrase never mind the ********, never mind finding it to make sense and be offensive, please tell me. This album is decent enough to be displayed and sold in high street shops, so why isn't it decent enough to be displayed on an internet forum? As far as I'm concerned, there are far worse avatars out there. Bryce got away with a pot-leaf avatar for a long time - at least that symbolises something! Brumby's new avatar has a bloke making a hand gesture. How is the cover of a popular album worse than those two?
This has really ****ed me off and seeing as not too many people share my point of view, I guess I'll **** off.

Slow Love™ · 22-11-2005, 11:01 AM

Is the "B" word considered really naughty in England? I thought it was in fairly general usage over there. Here in Australia you might see it in an opinion piece in a newspaper or magazine, though I don't think it's usage here is as common.

Certainly I would have thought that an album cover that anybody of any age who walks into HMV might see without restriction would be OK for this forum.

In short, I think steds has a point. Just IMO.

BoyBrumby · 22-11-2005, 12:31 PM

I'd say it's a second or third grade swear over here. Not one of the big 7, but I don't think I'd use it in polite company willy-nilly.

& my new avatar is the great Johnny Cash famously giving the camera the bird during his performance at San Quentin prison immortalised on his "Johnny Cash at San Quentin" album.

Just for the record.

James · 22-11-2005, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by steds

Yesterday, I was asked by Neil to remove my avatar - a picture of the cover of the Sex Pistols album, Never Mind the ******** - one the grounds that it contains a naughty word. I duly removed said avatar because I'm a good little boy, but I'm ****ed off by it and would like to dispute it.

You can dispute all you like, but I would have made the same decision as Neil and I certainly back his decision.

Our forum is open to people of all ages and we market ourselves as a family forum. Would you start start swearing around an 11/12 year old for example? No, I don't think you would.

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Originally Posted by steds

Yesterday, I was asked by Neil to remove my avatar - a picture of the Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I can't see the ****ing problem with it. This word that is not used in an offensive way, or any coherent way at all. If you can make any sense out of the phrase never mind the ********, never mind finding it to make sense and be offensive, please tell me.

This is your final warning, before you will be banned. If you don't lose the complete disregard for the bad word filter, you will face a ban.

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Originally Posted by steds

This album is decent enough to be displayed and sold in high street shops, so why isn't it decent enough to be displayed on an internet forum? As far as I'm concerned, there are far worse avatars out there. Bryce got away with a pot-leaf avatar for a long time - at least that symbolises something! Brumby's new avatar has a bloke making a hand gesture. How is the cover of a popular album worse than those two?
This has really ****ed me off and seeing as not too many people share my point of view, I guess I'll **** off.

Brumby's avatar will be removed.

Prince EWS · 22-11-2005, 01:14 PM

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Would you start start swearing around an 11/12 year old for example?

If the word in question is the word I think it is, I wouldnt have a problem saying it in front of anyone of any age.

James · 22-11-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

If the word in question is the word I think it is, I wouldnt have a problem saying it in front of anyone of any age.

That's your opinion and you're fully entitled to that.

Its just a shame Steds didn't decide to bring up his point in a more adult manner....

Prince EWS · 22-11-2005, 01:22 PM

Yeah, if he hadnt come in here swearing his head off, people might have actually been able to see his point.

BoyBrumby · 22-11-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Brumby's avatar will be removed.

Oops. Back to Dave "Boy" Green I go.

Sorry.

sledger · 22-11-2005, 02:32 PM

i feel your pain steds.

steds · 22-11-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Our forum is open to people of all ages and we market ourselves as a family forum. Would you start start swearing around an 11/12 year old for example? No, I don't think you would.

If I was talking about that album, yes. How am I supposed to talk about an album called "Never Mind The ******** Here's The Sex Pistols" without mentioning the word ********?
"Never Mind The Naughty Word"?

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Originally Posted by James

This is your final warning, before you will be banned. If you don't lose the complete disregard for the bad word filter, you will face a ban.

Where have I disregarded the bad word filter? Have I bypassed it anywhere? No. It's there to block out the bad words. How is giving it bad words to block out disregarding it?

You might aswell ban me, anyway. There's no other way that this will go without me leaving and completely ignoring CW forever anyway.

James · 22-11-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by steds

Where have I disregarded the bad word filter? Have I bypassed it anywhere? No. It's there to block out the bad words. How is giving it bad words to block out disregarding it?

You were warned yesterday for your swearing in one the official threads.

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Originally Posted by steds

You might aswell ban me, anyway. There's no other way that this will go without me leaving and completely ignoring CW forever anyway.

All seems like a major over-reaction on your part but I certainly won't be losing any sleep over it.

sledger · 22-11-2005, 03:12 PM

and so you shouldnt james lad.

FaaipDeOiad · 23-11-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Love™

Is the "B" word considered really naughty in England? I thought it was in fairly general usage over there. Here in Australia you might see it in an opinion piece in a newspaper or magazine, though I don't think it's usage here is as common.

Certainly I would have thought that an album cover that anybody of any age who walks into HMV might see without restriction would be OK for this forum.

In short, I think steds has a point. Just IMO.

I must say, I agree. The world in question would fit well within a PG rating in a mainstream television timeslot, or a general article in a newspaper. A word like "crap", which I believe is acceptable here, would certainly offend far more people.

PY · 23-11-2005, 07:49 AM

Interesting that is, 'crap' is used much much more by people here.

I would consider using crap in conversation with anyone (including my parents) in moderation but I would never use the word in question in a conversation with anyone including my mates who swear like troopers.

I guess I view it as bad language whereas crap I don't. Not sure why though.

Adamc · 23-11-2005, 07:59 AM

That's odd. It's generally regarded as a fairly innocuous word here in Australia, but it seems to be perceived differently in the UK.

22-11-2005, 06:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
steds Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Riding public transport back and forth Posts: 16,914	Avatar? Yesterday, I was asked by Neil to remove my avatar - a picture of the cover of the Sex Pistols album, Never Mind the ****** - one the grounds that it contains a naughty word. I duly removed said avatar because I'm a good little boy, but I'm ed off by it and would like to dispute it. Forgive me if I'm out of line, but I can't see the ing problem with it. This word that is not used in an offensive way, or any coherent way at all. If you can make any sense out of the phrase never mind the ****, never mind finding it to make sense and be offensive, please tell me. This album is decent enough to be displayed and sold in high street shops, so why isn't it decent enough to be displayed on an internet forum? As far as I'm concerned, there are far worse avatars out there. Bryce got away with a pot-leaf avatar for a long time - at least that symbolises something! Brumby's new avatar has a bloke making a hand gesture. How is the cover of a popular album worse than those two? This has really ed me off and seeing as not too many people share my point of view, I guess I'll ** off.

22-11-2005, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Slow Love™ International Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 6,079	Is the "B" word considered really naughty in England? I thought it was in fairly general usage over there. Here in Australia you might see it in an opinion piece in a newspaper or magazine, though I don't think it's usage here is as common. Certainly I would have thought that an album cover that anybody of any age who walks into HMV might see without restriction would be OK for this forum. In short, I think steds has a point. Just IMO. __________________ "Youre known for having a liking for men who look like women." - Linda "FFS I'm sick and tired of having to see a bloke bend over to pick something up or lean over and see their arse crack. For christ's sake pull your pants up or buy some underpants you bogan because nobody want's to see it. And this is a boat building shed (well one of them) not a porn studio." - Craig

22-11-2005, 12:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,629	I'd say it's a second or third grade swear over here. Not one of the big 7, but I don't think I'd use it in polite company willy-nilly. & my new avatar is the great Johnny Cash famously giving the camera the bird during his performance at San Quentin prison immortalised on his "Johnny Cash at San Quentin" album. Just for the record. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

23-11-2005, 07:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
PY International Coach Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 10,736	Interesting that is, 'crap' is used much much more by people here. I would consider using crap in conversation with anyone (including my parents) in moderation but I would never use the word in question in a conversation with anyone including my mates who swear like troopers. I guess I view it as bad language whereas crap I don't. Not sure why though. __________________ A True Champion - Bob. Rest in peace. 15/04/06 "People today have too big a devil and too small a God" - Stephen Currie "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" Psalm 27:1

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22-11-2005, 01:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,728	Yeah, if he hadnt come in here swearing his head off, people might have actually been able to see his point.

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,109	i feel your pain steds.

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,109	and so you shouldnt james lad.

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Adamc Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in the wind, so to speak Posts: 9,128	That's odd. It's generally regarded as a fairly innocuous word here in Australia, but it seems to be perceived differently in the UK.

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