Indian coach - Gary Kirsten

Pratters · 27-11-2007, 10:19 AM

Itstl.

Richard · 27-11-2007, 10:26 AM

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silentstriker · 27-11-2007, 10:41 AM

Head coaches are overrated - India seem to be getting along fine without one. Let's see what happens though.

Shaggy Alfresco · 27-11-2007, 10:49 AM

BCCI announcing this before it's been fully completed? Haven't they learnt from the Ford debacle?

jeevan · 27-11-2007, 10:53 AM

Has the generously proportioned lady sung yet?
If not, is it still a bird in the bush or veld or outfield?

Hope he lasts more than 2 years, or for the period
when we would really need the coaching in batting when
the present middle order starts to retire.

Also hope that it's been made clear that this position
is a little less than that of a pontificating warlord. Or even
below captain. Just one stripe above the bowling and fielding
coaches would be best.

biased indian · 27-11-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy Alfresco

BCCI announcing this before it's been fully completed? Haven't they learnt from the Ford debacle?

it only the newspaper and newschannel thats flashing it...i thnk wht BCCi have said is they have shortlisted some 30 people and one among them will be the coach..i think we will have a coach before australian tour..

and we can have one more thing to blame the big defeat

Fusion · 27-11-2007, 01:02 PM

I find it interesting that both the Pakistani and Indian boards have hired coaches that seem to compliment strengths they already possess. Pakistan is perceived as being stronger in bowling than batting, and yet PCB hired a former bowler as their coach. India's strength is perceived to be their batting. After hiring Chappell, they are again going with a former batsman as their head coach. I'm not so sure about this approach. I think unless you can hire a strong assistant coach to work on the other side, a team should look to improve its weakness and hire the coach most qualified in that department.

Beleg · 27-11-2007, 01:05 PM

The thing is, Pakistan doesn't really have a strength at the moment.

Fusion · 27-11-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beleg

The thing is, Pakistan doesn't really have a strength at the moment.

Haha, yeah good point.

jeevan · 27-11-2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusion

I find it interesting that both the Pakistani and Indian boards have hired coaches that seem to compliment strengths they already possess. Pakistan is perceived as being stronger in bowling than batting, and yet PCB hired a former bowler as their coach. India's strength is perceived to be their batting. After hiring Chappell, they are again going with a former batsman as their head coach. I'm not so sure about this approach. I think unless you can hire a strong assistant coach to work on the other side, a team should look to improve its weakness and hire the coach most qualified in that department.

India already have a bowling coach (Venkatesh Prasad) and fielding coach (Robin Singh) who have been on it since after the WC.

Also to note is that much of the batting strength is based on Tendulkar,Ganguly, Dravid (all 35 +/-) and Laxman (34). So there is a huge transition coming in the batting, eg Ganguly a year ago had said he had 18 months left in him. (Sehwag, 29, melted away so there is no test batsman outside of these with more than 20-25 tests. For ODI's Dhoni,Yuvi form a middle order, but top is wide open after the big3).

(Bowling: Kumble is 37 but most everyone else is 30 or under, with Zaheer & Harbhajan having 50+ tests each and a designated leggie succesor in Chawla being groomed for the international stage).

sledger · 27-11-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Beleg

The thing is, Pakistan doesn't really have a single decent player at the moment.

been saying it for years tbh.

Sanz · 27-11-2007, 01:44 PM

With all due respect to him, What Previous coaching experience does Gary Kirsten bring with him that is required to coach a team like India ?

sledger · 27-11-2007, 01:46 PM

demonstrated the "foward defensive", they were all bowled over.

Langeveldt · 27-11-2007, 03:55 PM

Gazza is a sound oke, fine cricketer a great guy and a really sound oke..

I just hope he doesn't get wasted on the madness cricket can be in the subcontinent.. And we need him in PE anyway

Langeveldt · 27-11-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanz

With all due respect to him, What Previous coaching experience does Gary Kirsten bring with him that is required to coach a team like India ?

He's been the Mercedes Warriors batting coach for a fair bit.. I think he could do a similarly good job as AAD did with England last summer..

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Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,771	I find it interesting that both the Pakistani and Indian boards have hired coaches that seem to compliment strengths they already possess. Pakistan is perceived as being stronger in bowling than batting, and yet PCB hired a former bowler as their coach. India's strength is perceived to be their batting. After hiring Chappell, they are again going with a former batsman as their head coach. I'm not so sure about this approach. I think unless you can hire a strong assistant coach to work on the other side, a team should look to improve its weakness and hire the coach most qualified in that department.

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