Second Round Group E - South Africa, India, New Zealand, England

JASON · 07-09-2007, 06:24 PM

The Second Round of 20/20 World Cup starts Sunday 16th September after the Preliminary round is completed . Group E in the second round has the following 4 teams- A1,C1, B2 , D2

At this stage it seems it will most likely be South Africa (A1) , NZ (C1), England(B2) and India (D2). Unless a 3rd ranked Tean in any of these groups upsets any of the 2 teams in these groups.

Sun 16
10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 13th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
C1 New Zealand v D2 India
Sun 16
18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 15th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Newlands, Cape Town
A1 South Africa v B2 England

Tue 18
10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 17th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kingsmead, Durban
C1 New Zealand v B2 England

Wed 19
14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 20th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kingsmead, Durban
A1 South Africa v C1 New Zealand
Wed 19
18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 21st Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kingsmead, Durban
B2 England v D2 India

Thu 20
18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 24th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
Kingsmead, Durban
A1 South Africa v D2 India

JASON · 07-09-2007, 07:20 PM

South Africa odds on to finish top of Group E and the second Semi finalist will be a tussle between India and NZ , IMHO.

Scaly piscine · 08-09-2007, 06:01 AM

All 4 teams could end up being average or worse. I would say India is the outsider because fielding loses or earns you runs which are tough to get back. In 50 overs cricket you can simply attack a bit earlier or a bit more, in 20 over cricket you're already playing on the limit so extra runs gained and lost here and there make a big difference.

At a push I would go for England and NZ, with SA and India turning in dire performances - but anything can happen obviously.

jeevan · 09-09-2007, 08:54 PM

Indian fielding is not defensible of course. But some of the poster boys of bad fielding are not in the squad (thinking the 30+ folks, Powar, Munaf).

Some other Indian liabilities, like Pathan being good only for the first 3 overs or so in bowling and Sehwag in batting, are also fine in this format.

Dont dispute your primary point, that India has the weakest hand here.

SJS · 12-09-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeevan

Indian fielding is not defensible of course. But some of the poster boys of bad fielding are not in the squad (thinking the 30+ folks, Powar, Munaf).

Some other Indian liabilities, like Pathan being good only for the first 3 overs or so in bowling and Sehwag in batting, are also fine in this format.

Dont dispute your primary point, that India has the weakest hand here.

Yes. India is not a great fielding side and an untried bowling side as faras this format goes. Batting is a bit closer to odi's so thats not such abig worry barring the inexperience.

A final side of

Sehwag
Karthik
Dhoni
Yuvraj
Uthappa
Gambhir/Rohit Sharma
Pathan I
Pathan Y/Joginder Sharma
Harbhajan
Sreesanth/Agarkar
RP Singh

may/could spring a surprise. I still feel they will miss Sachin very badly. Add just him in this line up and it looks much better. Though I agree with his decision to stay out due to physical reasons. Any talk of his not being right for this format is pure garbage.

JASON · 13-09-2007, 05:21 PM

Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .

Athlai · 13-09-2007, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASON

Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .

50 runs or so.

biased indian · 14-09-2007, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASON

Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .

50+ and soctland go through

Nnanden · 15-09-2007, 06:42 PM

Pietersen vs South Africa is huge. Cue important dropped catch.

Perm · 15-09-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nnanden

Pietersen vs South Africa is huge. Cue important dropped catch.

Cue a match-winning knock from KP.

Turbinator · 15-09-2007, 08:09 PM

Cue an Indian win.

Days of Grace · 15-09-2007, 08:43 PM

Cue a fantastic diving catch from Smith off KP, with KP going for a duck first ball...

Seriously, I think South Africa's bowlers are there for the taking. They don't have a spinner and no change of pace. Ntini, in particular, has looked absolute cannon-fodder so far. South Africa have to bowl first if they win the toss.

chaminda_00 · 15-09-2007, 10:11 PM

Can the thread title get changed now please, same with the other thread.

The_Bunny · 15-09-2007, 10:26 PM

Like the look of NZ and ENG... SA may come through.

JASON · 16-09-2007, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaminda_00

Can the thread title get changed now please, same with the other thread.

Agree, Can moderators please Change this thread Title to

"Second Round 20/20 Group E - South Africa, India, New Zealand , England"

and the other thread title to

" Second Round 20/20 Group F - Australia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh"

Thanks.

07-09-2007, 06:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
JASON Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Work Posts: 7,558	Second Round Group E - South Africa, India, New Zealand, England The Second Round of 20/20 World Cup starts Sunday 16th September after the Preliminary round is completed . Group E in the second round has the following 4 teams- A1,C1, B2 , D2 At this stage it seems it will most likely be South Africa (A1) , NZ (C1), England(B2) and India (D2). Unless a 3rd ranked Tean in any of these groups upsets any of the 2 teams in these groups. Sun 16 10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 13th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg C1 New Zealand v D2 India Sun 16 18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 15th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC Newlands, Cape Town A1 South Africa v B2 England Tue 18 10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 17th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC Kingsmead, Durban C1 New Zealand v B2 England Wed 19 14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 20th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC Kingsmead, Durban A1 South Africa v C1 New Zealand Wed 19 18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 21st Match, Group E - TBC v TBC Kingsmead, Durban B2 England v D2 India Thu 20 18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 24th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC Kingsmead, Durban A1 South Africa v D2 India Last edited by JASON; 07-09-2007 at 07:14 PM.

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07-09-2007, 07:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
JASON Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Work Posts: 7,558	South Africa odds on to finish top of Group E and the second Semi finalist will be a tussle between India and NZ , IMHO.

09-09-2007, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
jeevan International 12th Man Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Jose CA Posts: 1,677	Indian fielding is not defensible of course. But some of the poster boys of bad fielding are not in the squad (thinking the 30+ folks, Powar, Munaf). Some other Indian liabilities, like Pathan being good only for the first 3 overs or so in bowling and Sehwag in batting, are also fine in this format. Dont dispute your primary point, that India has the weakest hand here.

13-09-2007, 05:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
JASON Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: At Work Posts: 7,558	Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan? They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .

15-09-2007, 08:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
Turbinator International Captain Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,492	Cue an Indian win.

15-09-2007, 08:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Days of Grace International Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Takasaki, Japan Posts: 3,852	Cue a fantastic diving catch from Smith off KP, with KP going for a duck first ball... Seriously, I think South Africa's bowlers are there for the taking. They don't have a spinner and no change of pace. Ntini, in particular, has looked absolute cannon-fodder so far. South Africa have to bowl first if they win the toss.

15-09-2007, 10:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
The_Bunny First Class Debutant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 865	Like the look of NZ and ENG... SA may come through.

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