Dual draft voting thread - our best pre and post WW2 teams

so the rules are simple, everyone vote 5-4-3-2-1 for both the pre-WW2 and post-WW2 teams. the winner is the user who accrues the most points total.



1. AGENT TBY
Classic
01. Jack Hobbs
02. Vijay Merchant
03. Clem Hill
04. Douglas Jardine *
05. Percy McDonnell
06. Les Ames (wk)
07. George Hirst (5)
08. Bert Vogler (3)
09. Bill Voce (2)
10. Clarrie Grimmett (4)
11. Ken Farnes (1)

Modern
01. Hanif Mohammad
02. Bill Lawry
03. Jacques Kallis (5)
04. Neil Harvey
05. Vijay Hazare (6)
06. Inzamam ul Haq
07. Keith Miller * (2)
08. Andrew Flintoff (3)
09. Godfrey Evans (wk)
10. Anil Kumble (4)
11. Waqar Younis (1)


2. J_C
Classic
01. Cyril Washbrook
02. Archie Jackson
03. KS Ranjitsinhji
04. Joe Hardstaff jnr
05. Stanley Jackson / 6
06. Allan Steel / 5 (c)
07. Billy Murdoch +
08. Amar Singh / 2
09. Bill O'Reilly / 4
10. Sydney Barnes / 3
11. J.J. Ferris / 1

Modern
01. Mark Taylor *
02. Desmond Haynes
03. Ricky Ponting
04. Younis Khan
05. AB de Villiers +
06. Doug Walters 6
07. Mushtaq Mohammad 5
08. Mike Procter 2
09. Jim Laker 4
10. Dale Steyn 1
11. Shane Bond 3


3. MR.MISTER
Classic
01. Victor Trumper
02. Jeff Stollmeyer *
03. Jack Fingleton
04. Phil Mead
05. Charles Fry 6
06. Aubrey Faulkner 5
07. Jock Cameron +
08. Gubby Allen 3
09. Ted McDonald 1
10. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 4
11. Tom Richardson 2

Modern
01. Gordon Greenidge
02. Sunil Gavaskar
03. Steve Smith
04. Mark Waugh 7
05. Aravinda de Silva 6
06. Andy Flower +
07. Angelo Matthews 5
08. Shane Warne 4
09. Michael Holding 1
10. Fazal Mahmood 3
11. Brian Statham 2


4. MORGIEB
Classic
01. Sid Barnes
02. Warren Bardsley
03. Herbie Taylor
04. Wally Hammond * 4
05. Dudley Nourse
06. CAG Russell
07. Billy Bates 5
08. Hugh Trumble 3
09. George Lohmann 1
10. Herbert Strudwick +
11. Bill Bowes 2

Modern
01. Geoff Boycott
02. Dennis Amiss
03. Kane Williamson (5)
04. Everton Weekes
05. Allan Border * (6)
06. Shivnarine Chanderpaul
07. Farokh Engineer +
08. Peter Pollock (3)
09. Hugh Tayfield (4)
10. Neil Adcock (2)
11. Glenn McGrath (1)


5. OVERRATED SANITY
Classic
01. Herbert Sutcliffe
02. Bruce Mitchell
03. Maurice Leyland
04. Lindsay Hassett *
05. Martin Donnelly
06. George Ulyett (5)
07. Dick Lilley +
08. Harold Larwood (1)
09. Mohammad Nissar (3)
10. Jack Cowie (2)
11. Tich Freeman (4)

Modern
01. Alastair Cook
02. Vinoo Mankad (5)
03. Viv Richards *
04. Zaheer Abbas
05. Kevin Pietersen
06. Michael Clarke
07. Ian Healy (wk)
08. Mitchell Johnson (3)
09. Andy Roberts (2)
10. Shoaib Akhtar (4)
11. Fred Trueman (1)


6. RED HILL
Classic
01. Len Hutton
02. Charles Bannerman
03. Eddie Paynter
04. KS Duleepsinhji
05. Warwick Armstrong * 5
06. Pieter van der Bijl
07. Sammy Carter +
08. CTB Turner 1
09. Tim Wall 3
10. Tibby Cotter 2
11. Bert Ironmonger 4

Modern
01. Matthew Hayden
02. Graham Gooch
03. Hashim Amla
04. Greg Chappell 7
05. Frank Worrell 6 *
06. Shakib Al Hasan 5
07. Kapil Dev 3
08. Allan Knott +
09. Richard Hadlee 2
10. Dennis Lillee 1
11. Stuart MacGill 4


7. SAMUEL VIMES
Classic
01. Wilfred Rhodes /o
02. Tom Hayward /
03. Johnny Tyldesley /
04. R.E. Foster /
05. Stan McCabe /
06. Jack Ryder * /
07. An Allrounder
08. Jack Blackham +
09. JT Hearne o
10. Manny Martindale o
11. Fred Spofforth o

Modern
01. Virender Sehwag /
02. Justin Langer /
03. David Gower /
04. Mahela Jayawardene /
05. Steve Waugh * /o
06. A Batsman
07. Adam Gilchrist +
08. Abdul Qadir o
09. John Snow o
10. Jeff Thomson o
11. James Anderson o


8. THE BATTLERS PRINCE
Classic
01. Stewie Dempster
02. Bill Brown
03. Arthur Shrewsbury
04. Eric Rowan
05. Andrew Stoddart *
06. Frank Woolley
07. Gilbert Jessop
08. Stan Nichols
09. George Geary
10. Tiger Smith +
11. Colin Blythe

Modern
01. Barry Richards
02. Graeme Smith*
03. Kumar Sangakkara
04. Graeme Pollock
05. Damien Martyn
06. Garry Sobers 5
07. Jeff Dujon +
08. Alan Davidson 1
09. Shaun Pollock 3
10. Alec Bedser 2
11. Lance Gibbs 4


9. WATSON
Classic
01. Bill Woodfull *
02. Bill Ponsford
03. Charlie Macartney 6
04. Alan Kippax
05. Archie MacLaren
06. Dave Nourse 5
07. Learie Constantine 2
08. Frank Foster 3
09. Jack Gregory 1
10. Bert Oldfield +
11. Arthur Mailey 4

Modern
01. Bob Simpson 6
02. Roy Fredericks
03. Rohan Kanhai
04. Peter May *
05. Ted Dexter 5
06. Mike Hussey
07. Denis Lindsay +
08. Ray Lindwall 2
09. Johnny Wardle 4
10. Curtly Ambrose 1
11. Courtney Walsh 3


10. ZINZAN
Classic
01. W G Grace 6
02. Alan Melville
03. Ernest Tyldesley
04. Patsy Hendren
05. Bill Edrich 7
06. Monty Noble * 2
07. George Giffen 3
08. Maurice Tate 1
09. Billy Wade +
10. Albert Trott 5
11. Bobby Peel 4

Modern
01. Conrad Hunte
02. Saeed Anwar
03. Ken Barrington 6
04. Brian Lara
05. Martin Crowe
06. Quinton de Kock+
07. Ian Botham 3
08. Chris Cairns 4
09. Malcolm Marshall 1
10. Derek Underwood 5
11. Frank Tyson 2

Shouldn't we wait for Samuel_Vimes to complete his Modern team?

watson, field this one

J_C said:

Shouldn't we wait for Samuel_Vimes to complete his Modern team?

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Samuel Vimes timed-out 4 days ago and Mr_mister made the last pick yesterday.

Also he can finish his two teams any time he likes, and the voting lasts for a week anyway.

I don't see an issue, especially as Vimes hasn't indicated anything.

mr_mister said:

so the rules are simple, everyone vote 5-4-3-2-1 for both the pre-WW2 and post-WW2 teams. the winner is the user who accrues the most points total.

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FWIW I think that's a lot to ask of voters looking to quickly provide their two cents worth, especially those outside the participants. Honestly think you'd be better to do a normal poll & just ask for the top 3 combined... but your call obviously.

Classic:

1) J_C
2) Agent TBY
3) Samuel_Vimes
4) mr_mister
5) Red Hill

Modern:

1) TBP
2) watson
3) Agent TBY
4) morgieb
5) J_C

(1 to 5 is best to worst)

Classic:

5) OverratedSanity
4) J_C
3) Mr_Mister
2) Red Hill
1) watson

Modern:

5) The Battlers Prince
4) Red Hill
3) Agent TBY
2) J_C
1) watson

FWIW - ranking it in order of votes, so 5 equals 5 votes, 4 equals 4 votes, etc.

Kicking back with large beveridge at the local after starting work at dawn's crack.

Favourites are........

Apologies to those who missed out. But very close as usual.

CLASSIC
5 Points = Mr_mister
4 Points = Agent TBY
3 Points = The Battlers Prince
2 Points = Red Hill
1 Point = J_C

MODERN
5 Points = Red Hill
4 Points = The Battlers Prince
3 Points = Zinzan
2 Points = Morgieb
1 Point = OverratedSanity

Bump

Still nothing from Vimes?

Classic

1. MorgieB - Some absolute classic players that I think shone just above the rest
2. J_C - IMO I think it's the best team on paper, but something about O'Reilly and Barnes bowling together that doesn't make sense to me. Still though, 2nd spot
3. Watson - an amazing top order, and left Gregory in his position at 9, an exciting team
4. Overratedsanity - other days this lineup could have been higher but today I'm just thinking it's not quite there. A couple weak links in the middle order. Good players, but a touch inconsistent. Very nice side though and I love the bowling
5. Zinzan - another top batting lineup and then three of the best allrounders ever in Noble, Giffen and the Doctor add to that a solid bowling lineup and it's a class side

Modern

1. Watson - this team is just a list of players who have the X factor. I really like this team
2. Red Hill - on paper, the best team. However, Lillee and Hadlee are very similar bowlers, and although it sounds great, I don't think it would work as well as a varied attack, like a Holding to share the new ball. I love Dev as the third seamer
3. J_C - another top side JC, a good if not brilliant batting side, and you won't go far wrong with that dynamite bowling unit.
4. OverratedSanity - just quality all over this team, I LOVE the four man pace unit. Just a touch below the other sides but a good team nonetheless
5. MrMister - a more "modern", modern side through the middle order, nothing major against that, but probably why I'm not rating this side higher. I do love the look of the XI though


Overall I think Watson had the best 2 sides for my voting, but nobody had an absolutely rubbish team. Good drafting and thanks to MM and everyone else who helped run this draft.

I should have chosen Tony Greig over Matthews for my number 7, I was fatigued by the end of drafting and not thinking straight


will put my votes in tommorrow

Bump

Classic

5 Agent TBY
4 OS
3 MrMister
2 Zinzan
1 RedHill

Modern

5 OS
4 TBP
3 Watson
2 RedHill
1 Agent TBY

kingkallis said:

Classic

5 Agent TBY
4 OS
3 MrMister
2 Zinzan
1 RedHill

Modern

5 OS
4 TBP
3 Watson
2 RedHill
1 Agent TBY

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Is that for strongest to weakest or vice versa

it's weakest to strongest imo

Hope not

Classic
1: Zinzan (5 pts)
2: Watson (4 pts)
3: J_C (3 pts)
4: Morgieb (2 pts)
5: Agent TBY (1 pt)

Modern
1: Red Hill (5 pts)
2: The Battler's Prince (4 pts)
3: Agent TBY (3 pts)
4: Zinzan (2 pts)
5: J_C (1 pt)

Classic

tby 3
morgie 5
os 4
zinzan 2
red hill 1

Modern

tby 4
os 2
red hill 3
tbp 5
watson 1