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Howe_zat

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On a no ball the bowler is getting an advantage, bowling from a shorter distance makes the batsman more likely to miss it and he doesn't have any indication it's illegal until the unpire says so. So the bowler shouldn't get a wicket.

I think the idea with wides is that the batsman has a much easier time seeing how illegal it is and has an easier time of it because it's just a **** delivery, so should just get back. I don't think the bowler should get a wicket on a wide either though.
 

GGG

State Captain
I guess because the fielding team doesn't gain an advantage by bowling a wide whereas bowling it from a distance less that the required distance gives the fielding team an advantage.
 

Jarquis

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I'd say it's the distinction between if a bowler notices a batsman is charging at him, being able to bowl it so he can't reach it or being able to bowl it from 18 yards at his head.
 

OverratedSanity

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Yeah, it's basically to give the bowler an extra option against pre-meditation. And even if he gets the wide "wrong" it might go down for 5 wides or something so the bowler still needs to do it properly.
 

stumpski

International Captain
Is the possibility of a stumping off a wide a fairly recent revision of the Laws? I don't ever remember it happening 'back in the day.'
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you get out via any mode of dismissal off a wide other than those that by definition mean it can't have been a wide (bowled, LBW, caught and so on)?

In other words, there is no limit to how you can get out from a wide other than logic. If I am correct then I would guess that that's the reason.
 

Riggins

International Captain
Is the possibility of a stumping off a wide a fairly recent revision of the Laws? I don't ever remember it happening 'back in the day.'
Pretty sure it's been there forever. It just seems newer because of the stricter interpretation of a wide in limited overs games. It basically doesn't happen in tests because to be a wide it'd usually have to be too wide for the keeper.
 

Prince EWS

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No balls are penalised because they give the bowler an unfair advantage in dismissing a batsman; wides are penalised because the give the bowler an unfair advantage in containing the scoring. As such, being able to take a wicket off a wide makes perfect sense; the unfair advantage you gained by bowling the wide is irrelevant to that facet of the game.
 

watson

Banned
If a batsman has charged down the wicket looking to hit a six over midwicket then the best ball to bowl is a Wide. It is also the most obvious, and paradoxically the most accurate. In short - why should a bowler be penalised for bowling what amounts to a damned good ball when the batsman is out stumped?

On-the-other-hand a No Ball is a ****up no matter the context. So what PEWS said.
 
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Red

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Remember when Warne used to bowl those bouncers? I'd like to see someone charge a spin bowler who bowls an outrageously wide (high) bouncer at a charging batsman which results in a stumping.

Not sure if it could work physically, but it looks cool in my head. Would need it be a big charge...
 

watson

Banned
Remember when Warne used to bowl those bouncers? I'd like to see someone charge a spin bowler who bowls an outrageously wide (high) bouncer at a charging batsman which results in a stumping.

Not sure if it could work physically, but it looks cool in my head. Would need it be a big charge...
Warne must have given Gilchrist a secret signal to protect his head because I have no recollection of Gilchrist wearing a helmet while keeping.
 
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Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
Remember when Warne used to bowl those bouncers? .
I recall him bowling one during the 2005 Ashes, to KP I think? I thought it all a bit of a joke.......was it actually part of his repertoire as I don't think I'd ever seen it before?
 

Red

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I recall him bowling one during the 2005 Ashes, to KP I think? I thought it all a bit of a joke.......was it actually part of his repertoire as I don't think I'd ever seen it before?
Saw him do it a few times. Wasn't a regular occurrence.
 

Adders

Cricketer Of The Year
:laugh:

So did he ever get a wicket off one?

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SRT actually did great with that delivery......much better than I remember KP dealing with the only Warne bouncer I recall seeing.

KP was just stunned.......Sachin went to duck under it, then thought **** that I'm not backing away from some 60 mph chin music, I'll have a piece of this.
 
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