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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    You do have to be a bit careful with Sri Lankan bowlers as their domestic seasons have been really bowler-friendly in the past. Averaging 20 isn't quite what it seems; no doubt it's nothing to sneeze at though.
    Chandimal averaging 80 last year and 50 the year before a fair effort to say the least, then. Not to mention Mathews averaging 50 overall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Chandimal averaging 80 last year and 50 the year before a fair effort to say the least, then. Not to mention Mathews averaging 50 overall.
    I believe the pitches have been a little flatter for the last couple of seasons. Those two have been particularly immense though given the conditions; indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    And I still think Furball has the best team by far tbh.
    Somewhat agree. Warne, Murali and Steyn all in the same team sounds like a daunting prospect regardless of their current form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    And I still think Furball has the best team by far tbh.
    Disagree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    You do have to be a bit careful with Sri Lankan bowlers as their domestic seasons have been really bowler-friendly in the past. Averaging 20 isn't quite what it seems; no doubt it's nothing to sneeze at though.
    Actually there are bowlers in every country with really low averages. There are several in WI and South Africa too it seems. So don't know why people single out Asian countries.

    Cheema averaged 14 with the ball last season in Pakistan and Weerakoon averaged 16 last season plus near 18 the last 4 seasons.

    And that is in proper FC matches.
    Last edited by Cevno; 04-05-2011 at 03:30 AM.

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    How do the two league structure in England work? And India?

    I doubt there are clear stats available Season by season of what division you are playing in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    Disagree.
    I agree with the disagreement.

    He has like 4 retired players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Actually there are bowlers in every country with really low averages. There are several in WI and South Africa too it seems. So don't know why people single out Asian countries.

    Cheema averaged 14 with the ball last season in Pakistan and Weerakoon averaged 16 last season plus near 18 the last 4 seasons.

    And that is in proper FC matches.
    South Africa's a bit funny because they have a competition with First Class status that shouldn't really have it and is entirely amateur; you have to make sure you don't fall into the trap of picking players who haven't played franchise cricket as they're essentially club cricketers with First Class records.

    Sri Lanka's domestic cricket generally is just really bowler friendly. Here are the competition-wide batting averages for the Premier League, year by year:


    2001 - 22.52
    2002 - 21.76
    2003 - 22.12
    2004 - 23.14
    2005 - 22.89
    2006 - 22.39
    2007 - 25.20
    2008 - 23.14
    2009 - 24.95
    2010 - 25.24

    Compare that to county cricket:

    2001 - 30.59
    2002 - 30.35
    2003 - 30.73
    2004 - 32.60
    2005 - 31.93
    2006 - 33.39
    2007 - 31.40
    2008 - 29.86
    2009 - 33.03
    2010 - 28.13

    Or the Sheffield Shield:

    2001 - 30.59
    2002 - 30.35
    2003 - 30.73
    2004 - 32.60
    2005 - 31.93
    2006 - 33.39
    2007 - 31.40
    2008 - 29.86
    2009 - 33.03
    2010 - 28.13


    Obviously averaging 20 doesn't quite say as much in the former competition as the latter two. Obviously the opposite applies to batting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    How do the two league structure in England work? And India?

    I doubt there are clear stats available Season by season of what division you are playing in.
    There are.

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    My top order being filled with Sri Lankan batsmen looks a bit more reassuring now.

    Interesting to note the drop in runs for the CC and SS in 2010.
    Last edited by Howe_zat; 04-05-2011 at 03:54 AM.

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    But aren't there 2 tiers IN both England and Srilanka ?

    India would be interesting in this regard too ,as the averages would vary with both extremes with the number of teams involved.
    There are both bowlers and batsman with very good numbers there.

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    The Sheffield Shield was both bowler friendly and filled with low quality batting lineups this season. The drop in averages isn't a shock. Near any decent bowler averaged < 25 when throughout the past 30 years these averages have been reserved for the elite.

    Hard to guess the quality, and what is 'normal' in some of the overseas competitions. I'm running with PEWS advice that it's hard to cheat the system. Pick the best players available, not the hidden stats whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    But aren't there 2 tiers IN both England and Srilanka ?
    England has a divisional system rather than a tiering system. It's an important difference. In a divisional system, teams are segregated by quality but players aren't - for example, you can be the best player in England by play Division 2 because that's where your county is ranked. In South Africa they have a tiered system whereby the lower tier (amateur cricket) merely acts as a player feeder system for the top tier (which is a now professional franchise system). If you're the best player in South Africa, you're playing franchise cricket in the SuperSport Series whenever available.

    Sri Lanka is like England, even though they've named their divisions "Tier 1" and "Tier 2".

    Sri Lankan, English, Indian etc Division 2 comps are recognised as being of lower quality than their Division 1 equivalents but still count towards the database for obvious reasons. 3-day amateur South African cricket doesn't count at all though as it's an irrelevant and misleading measure of a player's quality; it's probably about the standard of Sydney grade cricket.

    India would be interesting in this regard too ,as the averages would vary with both extremes with the number of teams involved.
    There are both bowlers and batsman with very good numbers there.
    Yeah, what I posted is only used to measure the balance between bat and ball in each competition - essentially the conditions. There are other measures to determine the quality of a competition and the number of teams is a factor there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    I agree with the disagreement.

    He has like 4 retired players.
    Lol.

    Get back to me when you draft a bowler.

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