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  1. shortpitched713

    Murali vs Jacques

    Who was the greater Test cricketer? I will give it to Murali, as I think he is a better all-rounder.
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    Nathan Lyon vs Josh Hazlewood (Test bowling)

    Who is the greater Test bowler?
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    Warne vs Steyn (Test bowling)

    It was very close between them in the 2024 All time bowlers poll (33 to 31 for their round of voting, just in favor of Warne) so I want to do a straight head to head of who was the greater Test bowler, between these two stylistically very different players? Steyn is the SR king, but Warne has...
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    O'Reilly vs Garner (as Test Bowlers Only)

    Who was the greater Test bowler? (Obviously Garner a much greater all-rounder)
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    Jacques Kallis vs Kumar Sangakkara ( as Test batsmen )

    Surprisingly, there's never been a poll which does a straight comparison of them as Test batsmen. So which one was greater, in your mind? Their performances were very comparable, but I will have to go with Sangakkara, for two reasons. 1) I think his second half career peak was more dominant...
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    Ambrose vs Warne: Greater Test Bowler?

    If this post is accurate, then this should be a very close comparison between ATG spinner and pacer.
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    Vernon Philander vs David Warner

    For Tests only. We seem to like comparing these players of late, so why not compare them against each other? These "bullies" have got conditions & home/away splits that make the much maligned 00s openers and condition dependent Anderson/Kumble, look like paragons of versatility. You all know...
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    Marshall v Hadlee

    It's been over 12 years since this thread: http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/threads/marshall-vs-hadlee-poll-added.53618/ Since then, I think something of a big 5 (Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Ambrose, Steyn) of fast bowlers has emerged, and Marshall/McGrath as co-equal GOATs tends to be the...
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    Which Test Attack would you prefer (Electric Bogaloo)?

    You get to carry one of these attacks for a modern(ish) ATG level Test teams which will face each other (no Bradman). Which do you think would run best? You should consider both the bowling potency and the impact on batting balance that each of these bowling attacks brings. Learned my lesson...
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    Real ATG / GOAT discussion thread

    **** Bradman, we need to talk about the real ones. My vote is for Pol Pot for murders per capita.
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    Rank the Test Allrounders: Hadlee, Botham, Kallis

    I've changed my mind a lot about "all-rounder" rankings, as on further reading and considering posts I've reordered what I think are the top 12 all-rounders in my estimation. A big part is making contributions in both skillsets, not so much "value" overall ( where I think the bowling...
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    Keith Miller vs Imran Khan (as batsmen)

    Who was the greater Test batsman? And why? As an aside, who do you think was a greater Test batsman at their peak?
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    Countries by Test / ODI Ratio

    See guys, I don't hate on England ALL the time. Here's a table sorting the big 8 Test cricket nations by their ratio of Tests to ODIs, since 1992 ( first full year of SA readmission ) in which England finally get to top the table...
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    WTC 2021 Final vs 2023 ODI WC Final

    I promise this is nothing personal, and the only thread I will post along the lines of "gloating", given that Pakistan was ass almost this whole tournament. Anyway, I think World Cup was definitely a big choke, and worse than 2023 WTC because in that I think Australia is genuinely the better...
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    Len Hutton vs Keith Miller

    Top 10 postwar batsman, vs top 5 postwar all-rounder. Spicier description: Slightly worse opener than Hayden, vs slightly worse all-rounder than Shaun Pollock.
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    Greater Test All-rounder: Peak Sobers vs Peak Imran

    Amazed this thread hasn't happened before. Anyway, I took the Imran 35 match peak from the Waqar thread, and I tried to find Sobers' best 35 match all-round peak as well to compare to. For Sobers, I have eyeballed the range as best I could, but if someone has some better algo result, let me...
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    Find a better bowler peak (min 33 Tests) than this (protip, you can't)

    https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/43543.html?class=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+1994;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling So I've long thought that Waqar at his peak was quite possibly the greatest ever, now I'm just going to put it out there as a challenge to anyone else as I'm...
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    Post War Test Anonymous Listing Comparison thread

    This is just another methodology to determine the top X post-war cricketers, in the following 3 disciplines: Top Batsmen Top Bowlers Top Allrounders What you, my dear reader, need to do is send me via a PM conversation ordered lists of the Top 35 Batmen, Top 21 Bowlers, and Top 15...
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    Peak Wes Hall vs Peak Dennis Lillee

    Which fast bowler was greater during their peak? Lillee's did last about twice as many Tests as Hall's, but this is more on the quality. I think it's a great comparison, as they both look incredible by the eye test. I'd say Hall looked just a touch quicker though. Also, most importantly of all...
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    Greatest Test bowler of 60s

    Who was it, in your opinion? The 70s saw a bunch of really amazing fast bowlers emerge, but the post war bowlers tend to be associated more with the 50s than 60s. So who was the best of this lot, as certainly someone was bowling in these matches. Is it a Davidson or Trueman? (Both of whom...

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