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  1. Flem274*

    Forget all these ATGs, lets get down to earth with the battlers - Henry Nicholls vs New Zealand

    So our recently dropped middle order player likely did need to go, but he also boasts a record that could pop him ahead of some former mercurial cult heroes that are remembered fondly - in particular Nathan Astle, Scott Styris and Craig McMillan. Nicholls has a very good home average of 48, and...
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    Is this the era of the oldest teams ever?

    Inspired by realising Ashwin is 57 today and the prediction thread. Looking around, I swear every player is like 5 years older than I think they are. It's across every team too (at full strength). Look at this ****, Pakistan and Bangladesh* excepted (and I've currently left out SA and Windies...
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    Should Teenage International Cricketers be Allowed?

    So growing up I thought it was pretty cool Sachin Tendulkar was 16 and playing for his country. Every kid wishes they could do that. Looking back at it now though, and having worked with teenagers....can't say it sits too well with me tbh. A 19 year old is very young to be in such an...
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    Above Expectations and a Basic MVP Model - The Fast Bowlers

    Hello. I'm boring so I made a ranking thing. If you just want some scores and ratings to yay or nay rather than a wall of explanatory text, here you go. Wall of text is below. Full spreadsheet in post #7. Player EA SCORE SR SCORE YA u35 (3 tests) YA u30 (3 tests) YA u25 (3 tests) YA u20 (3...
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    The "ok" Meme Needs to Die

    It was funny the first few months, but it's killing the forum as hard as the endless comparison threads but far more under the radar. Any time someone puts some effort into a post or response, especially if the ideas are unorthodox or earnest, they're drowned in a chorus of our version of snarky...
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    Your Two Thousand and Twenty Seven test side

    Get them in. Get your **** calls in. On CW we are noted experts and always right. Front up. Our team will be on their gold cards by 2026 so it's gonna look extra fresh 2027. Tom Latham (c) (Gold Card) Rachin Ravindra Thorn Parkes (I haven't even seen him play but some bro said he's good so it...
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    Tom Latham - The best Keeper Bat NZ never had?

    Bit of a speculative post. Thought about it because it might be a cheeky way to balance the NZ all time seconds really well (very important business). Saw chat on where Tom Latham ranks as an NZ opener and tl;dr not as highly as his average suggests for the well known reasons - can't score...
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    Where does longevity kick in for you? Rank these bowlers

    Following from the yarn in the other thread the other day (cheers harsh and trundler), I'm curious where longevity rankings kick in for you guys who value it more than me (most of the forum, except for those who have seen the light of the holy "Who would a real selector pick?"* sorting system)...
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    Fire Gary Stead

    I had an essay here* but I think the title is enough. Standards haven't slipped from 12 months ago, they're in freefall. NZ B 12 months ago beat England and they'd ****ing smash the current NZ. Take Larsen and Jurgenson while you're at it. And stop selecting 7 specialist batsmen and 3 bowlers...
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    Babar Azam needs to get on with it

    The guy is an amazing talent but at 27 years old he has 5 tons and averages 43. Fawad Alam has the same number of tons and a higher average from less games. I rate both tbh, but for all the talk of Babar being one of the best in the world, he really needs to start delivering. 1 ton in 2 years...
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    ***Official New Zealand Domestic Season 2021/22***

    Couldn't find a thread for it on google so here we go.
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    Mark Butcher vs Johnny Bairstow

    TIL Mark Butcher snagged 71 tests for an average of 34, which basically makes him Bairstow's cricketing dad. I thought he had like 40 tests for some reason. Who was better?
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    The Most Valuable Bowlers Today (Or "Why you suck if you average 28")

    Spin off from the batting thread. TL;DR - No one cares if you average 25 now you're not special. Here are some cricinfo links for 2001-2010 and 2018-2021. Disclaimer that I'm comparing 4 years with 9 and 63 players with 31, and I think the bowlers of this era are genuinely very good, but I...
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    Averaging 35 will be accepted again

    Before the 00s batting bubble the border between test class and see ya later was a batting average around 35 or so. Loads of guys had long and respected careers whose batting averages settled in the 30s by retirement. Mike Atherton, Nasser Hussain, Hansie Cronje, Stephen Fleming (in the...
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    The case for Shaun Pollock

    Shaun Pollock's bowling definitely gets treated as an also-ran by most on here during ATG rankings chat, me included. I think I rated him a lot higher as a kid than I do now (though child me was more scarred by his ODI batting - if you're kiwi you know the exact over). Maybe it's because he was...
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    Nathan Astle v Brendon McCullum

    Both players of amazing innings rather than great players themselves. Who was the better batsman? Astle - 81 tests, 4702 @ 37.02. 11 hundreds, 24 fifties. McCullum - 101 tests, 6453 @ 38.64. 12 hundreds, 31 fifties.
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    Who is the best Indian spinner?

    I literally have no opinion on this so I want to know others.
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    Make Room Fab Four - Now it's the ***y Seven

    Smith Williamson Kohli Root Babar Marnus Conway It is known. You are welcome to adjust numbers and names provided you can supply a suitably dubious title for them.
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    Kyle Jamieson in India

    Imagine being Kyle Jamieson. You're very tall. India hates you. The crowd wants you to fail. Everyone is waiting for their opportunity to smugly say "green top bully" , "too slow #copyrightpakpassion" , "one dimensional" , "not even good" , "Jammyson". You need a new ball for this tour, or a...
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    BJ Watling retires

    The GOAT New Zealand wicketkeeper batsman has played his final test, ending with victory in the world test championship final. He retires synonymous with c Watling b Southee/Boult/Wagner, and has scored centuries from the Basin to England. The essential uphill skier, never a man for wanker...

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