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  1. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    atg innings from clarke. great stuff
  2. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    good selfless knock there from *****on
  3. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    yeah seen enough of doolan. next.
  4. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    We've got like less than 100 runs to get here, just send out any of Watson/Haddin/Johnson and tell them to hit out. If there are a couple of quick wickets, then think about settling down a bit.
  5. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    yeah bit baffled by this
  6. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    i swear to god if he takes a single off the last ball... good
  7. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    jesus christ what are u doing doolan, just rotate the strike
  8. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    Who the **** cares about batting SR. I wanna hear more about market economics.
  9. Ruckus

    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

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  10. Ruckus

    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Well discussing standards definitely isn't fantasy talk. There's plenty of primary sources to form opinions about it on, plus many secondary ones which can be used to corroborate those. My beef isn't that they were playing the highest standard of the day (or course they were), it's that the...
  11. Ruckus

    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Yep, I wouldn't go so far as to say they were hobbyists, but they definitely weren't of the same professional standard as today. Do people really think that players who worked other jobs on the side could really have been as good as players who dedicate most hours of their life to it? Come off...
  12. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    Yep, that's my argument. And for a game that progresses from one set of standards to another, it's what you would expect. Bowling and batting are two separate facets of the game in cricket, why couldn't they develop at roughly similar rates? It's not like the set of skills are improved in...
  13. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    Not getting a debate on semantics here. The argument you raised about Garnham is indeed of a different kind to the debate in this thread (not sure why it was brought up). The argument I've been making is essentially saying that there is a lack of good evidence to make a judgement about the...
  14. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    There's a right or wrong to this debate as much as there is to any other cricket argument. You can say Garnham is the best, and there's plenty of evidence to suggest your wrong.
  15. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    This just highlights the absolute absurdity of this argument. Why not just extend the argument further and say because so-and-so dominated in lawn bowls they should be classified an ATG cricket player. Mynn and Lillywhite were both part of the roundarm bowling era - it wasn't even the same game...
  16. Ruckus

    Batting SR in test cricket

    Na, your misconstruing what I'm saying. How players perform relative to their peers is fine as a measure of success but only providing the analysis is confined within the era, or at least one where the standards were the same/similar. As soon as the standards are different by a significant...
  17. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    Harris beast mode is a sight to behold
  18. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    yeah got to surely. the deficit it massive still
  19. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

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  20. Ruckus

    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa 2013/14

    yeah agree, like whatever, if you don't want him touching it just say so, you don't have say **** off you dickhead or whatever it was. Just unnecessarily nasty stuff, not needed.

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