Knockout Stages

headhunter · 30-09-2007, 11:49 AM

Well here we have it the group stage are over and it's down to the serious business.

Quarter Finals

06 Oct - 15:00 Australia - England
06 Oct - 21:00 New Zealand - France
07 Oct - 15:00 South Africa - Fiji
07 Oct - 21:00 Argentina - Scotland

steds · 30-09-2007, 11:52 AM

They all look such huge mismatches. This isn't going to be fun.

Perm · 30-09-2007, 03:16 PM

Australia
France
South Africa
Argentina

TBH.

BoyBrumby · 30-09-2007, 03:18 PM

I dunno. They all look fairly clear-cut on paper, but only really SA/Fiji is a cast-iron certainty. France are unlikely to upset the ABs, but it is possible & with Wilkinson & Paterson respectively England and Scotland have chances in their games. If either advance it will doubtless be by playing a forward-orientated game and it won't be pretty, but the end justifies the means.

If a mod is reading this, maybe it could be stickied & the group threads cut loose?

Perm · 30-09-2007, 03:44 PM

I don't think Fiji have any real chance against South Africa, wouldn't surprise me if they lost by 50 points. Australia shouldn't have much trouble brushing aside England, while the same should be true for the All Blacks and France. But, I think France have that ability to step it up when it counts (99 semi) and they've just got that unpredictability and flair. If the AB's and Australia win, will we meet each other in the semi-final?. Argentina should get past Scotland, if they can continue playing to the standard they have been lately.

ohtani's jacket · 30-09-2007, 09:00 PM

Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
Argentina

IF England can pull off some 10 man rugby they could upset Australia. I don't rate France's chances at all. Our forwards have dominated them time and time again and their backline sucks.

Perm · 30-09-2007, 09:27 PM

I'd be very wary of a cornered France though, our chances are greatly increased by playing this game in Cardiff.

vogue · 01-10-2007, 01:09 AM

South Africa

Argentina ...those two are the ones i would feel most certain of...

I would love England to win,and the last game Australia played wasnt impressive so we might have some slim chance if the wind was in the right direction!!!

And New Zealand cos its my second team (thanks to some rather gorgeous lookin guy playing for them..) ...i wouldnt write off France though...

jot1 · 01-10-2007, 01:23 AM

We made a bit of a heavy weather beating the USA, IMO.

Cricket_Fanatic · 01-10-2007, 02:27 AM

France are no hope against the All Blacks! Laporte has coached every ounce of flair out of them!

BoyBrumby · 03-10-2007, 11:35 AM

Thanks to Auntie:

England: Jason Robinson; Paul Sackey, Mathew Tait, Andy Farrell, Josh Lewsey; Jonny Wilkinson, Andy Gomarsall; Andrew Sheridan, Mark Regan, Phil Vickery (captain), Simon Shaw, Ben Kay, Martin Corry, Lewis Moody, Nick Easter.
Replacements: George Chuter, Matt Stevens, Lawrence Dallaglio, Joe Worsley, Peter Richards, Olly Barkley, Dan Hipkiss.

Well, the good news is that Jase Robinson is back. Other changes made are possibly more debateable. I totally see the logic in bringing back a bigger centre (the idea of Mortlock running at Barkley & Tait was, frankly, scary), but Farrell? Had his best game for us v Tonga coming off the bench as an impact player. Hipkiss to start at 13 with maybe Cetty at 12 (who has the virtue of being right-footed too).

The presence of Lol & Worsley on the bench suggests we're abandoning any pretence at a 15-man game (no specialist openside in the 22 at all) and are going to try to smash Oz up front. Vickery starting in the place of the infinitely more dynamic Stevens, presumably on the grounds of his (arguably) better scrummaging seems to support this too.

vogue · 04-10-2007, 11:53 AM

From the BBC....

Farrell ruled out of England side
England lose centre Andy Farrell for the World Cup quarter-final against Australia because of injury.

BlackCap_Fan · 05-10-2007, 04:21 AM

All south semis for me.

Australia
NZ
SA
Argentina

Poor northern hemisphere.

vogue · 05-10-2007, 07:44 AM

......England replace Farrell with Catt
England name Mike Catt at inside centre in place of the injured Andy Farrell for Saturday's quarter-final against Australia....

PY · 06-10-2007, 12:50 PM

Probably a good job that CW went down this afternoon.

30-09-2007, 03:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,642	I dunno. They all look fairly clear-cut on paper, but only really SA/Fiji is a cast-iron certainty. France are unlikely to upset the ABs, but it is possible & with Wilkinson & Paterson respectively England and Scotland have chances in their games. If either advance it will doubtless be by playing a forward-orientated game and it won't be pretty, but the end justifies the means. If a mod is reading this, maybe it could be stickied & the group threads cut loose? __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

01-10-2007, 01:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
vogue International Debutant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Harrogate Posts: 2,026	South Africa Argentina ...those two are the ones i would feel most certain of... I would love England to win,and the last game Australia played wasnt impressive so we might have some slim chance if the wind was in the right direction!!! And New Zealand cos its my second team (thanks to some rather gorgeous lookin guy playing for them..) ...i wouldnt write off France though... __________________ And I recall my fall from grace, another time another place..

03-10-2007, 11:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,642	England XXII Thanks to Auntie: England: Jason Robinson; Paul Sackey, Mathew Tait, Andy Farrell, Josh Lewsey; Jonny Wilkinson, Andy Gomarsall; Andrew Sheridan, Mark Regan, Phil Vickery (captain), Simon Shaw, Ben Kay, Martin Corry, Lewis Moody, Nick Easter. Replacements: George Chuter, Matt Stevens, Lawrence Dallaglio, Joe Worsley, Peter Richards, Olly Barkley, Dan Hipkiss. Well, the good news is that Jase Robinson is back. Other changes made are possibly more debateable. I totally see the logic in bringing back a bigger centre (the idea of Mortlock running at Barkley & Tait was, frankly, scary), but Farrell? Had his best game for us v Tonga coming off the bench as an impact player. Hipkiss to start at 13 with maybe Cetty at 12 (who has the virtue of being right-footed too). The presence of Lol & Worsley on the bench suggests we're abandoning any pretence at a 15-man game (no specialist openside in the 22 at all) and are going to try to smash Oz up front. Vickery starting in the place of the infinitely more dynamic Stevens, presumably on the grounds of his (arguably) better scrummaging seems to support this too.

05-10-2007, 04:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
BlackCap_Fan State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Auckland,N.Z Posts: 1,392	All south semis for me. Australia NZ SA Argentina Poor northern hemisphere. __________________ Batsman for Cricketweb Blue Stats: --------M-----I----N.O---Runs---Average---50's--100's--HS OD: -62---56----15-----1342----32.73-----10------0-------99 (seriously) FC: --40---77-----8------2067----29.96-----12------2-----120 RIP Fardin 1990-2006

06-10-2007, 12:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
PY International Coach Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 10,736	Probably a good job that CW went down this afternoon. __________________ A True Champion - Bob. Rest in peace. 15/04/06 "People today have too big a devil and too small a God" - Stephen Currie "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?" Psalm 27:1

30-09-2007, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
steds Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Riding public transport back and forth Posts: 16,914	They all look such huge mismatches. This isn't going to be fun.

30-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Perm Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Clutha Valley, New Zealand Posts: 21,817	I don't think Fiji have any real chance against South Africa, wouldn't surprise me if they lost by 50 points. Australia shouldn't have much trouble brushing aside England, while the same should be true for the All Blacks and France. But, I think France have that ability to step it up when it counts (99 semi) and they've just got that unpredictability and flair. If the AB's and Australia win, will we meet each other in the semi-final?. Argentina should get past Scotland, if they can continue playing to the standard they have been lately.

30-09-2007, 09:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
ohtani's jacket State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,244	Australia New Zealand South Africa Argentina IF England can pull off some 10 man rugby they could upset Australia. I don't rate France's chances at all. Our forwards have dominated them time and time again and their backline sucks.

30-09-2007, 09:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Perm Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Clutha Valley, New Zealand Posts: 21,817	I'd be very wary of a cornered France though, our chances are greatly increased by playing this game in Cardiff.

01-10-2007, 01:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
jot1 State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 1,098	We made a bit of a heavy weather beating the USA, IMO.

01-10-2007, 02:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
Cricket_Fanatic Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: all over Posts: 63	France are no hope against the All Blacks! Laporte has coached every ounce of flair out of them!

04-10-2007, 11:53 AM	#12 (permalink)
vogue International Debutant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Harrogate Posts: 2,026	From the BBC.... Farrell ruled out of England side England lose centre Andy Farrell for the World Cup quarter-final against Australia because of injury.

05-10-2007, 07:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
vogue International Debutant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Harrogate Posts: 2,026	......England replace Farrell with Catt England name Mike Catt at inside centre in place of the injured Andy Farrell for Saturday's quarter-final against Australia....

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