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Old 17-07-2007, 12:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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If Australia win the World Cup and defeat the All Blacks and/or South Africa on the way, i think that'd be enough to prove they most certainly aren't a poor test side.
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If Australia win the World Cup and defeat the All Blacks and/or South Africa on the way, i think that'd be enough to prove they most certainly aren't a poor test side.
State the obvious mate
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When Australia have a scrum I'll respect them.
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Wouldn't know... The Aussies refuse to engage.
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Wouldn't know... The Aussies refuse to engage.
I know...there's a fairly good reason for that...they're much weaker
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Smarter though, and refs just aren't willing to ping them.
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Who won las time The Wallabies and the All Blacks met?

We aren't poor..
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Smarter though, and refs just aren't willing to ping them.
Yep. Shepherdson & Dunning definitely pulled a fast one in the last Oz/NZ game. Very cute, but it's seriously weak refereeing to let them get away with it. It must've been a full half-hour before there was a properly set scrum in that game.

Mind you, Oz have something of a history in this respect. Baxter & Young nearly conned Watson into giving Oz the last WC. I'm just so pleased we won because (aside from the obvious) it means we can legitimately moan about the piss-poor reffing without it looking like sour grapes.
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Who won las time The Wallabies and the All Blacks met?

We aren't poor..
Poor All Black sides have beaten great Australian teams before.
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Lets be honest - youd struggle to name an average Australian scrum, the current one is an absolute embarrasment!!!
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When the last time Australia had a good scrum though, during the last World Cup the scrum was a joke too and they still won games. If Australia is a poor Rugby team, what does it say about the rest of the sides in World Rugby outside NZ and South Africa. Its not like any of the rest are much better, if at at all.
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When Australia have a scrum I'll respect them.
You make it sound like the scrum is the single defining factor in whether a team is poor or not. Sure the scrum is definetly the weakest facet of the Wallabies game, but by no means does that make them a poor side.
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You make it sound like the scrum is the single defining factor in whether a team is poor or not. Sure the scrum is definetly the weakest facet of the Wallabies game, but by no means does that make them a poor side.
I agree with you, but a solid scrum is the basis of an attackking side. Australia are just lucky they have a very good lineout to make up for their scrumming deficiencies.
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