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    Flannelled Fool or Muddied Oafs?

    I will admit do not knowing a great deal about Rugby (but more then most of the AR boys)

    But which is a more fair dinkum World Cup?

    In cricket there are at the most 7 countries that could win the Cup and maybe one or two others that could make the final six

    How many in Rugby would be in with a real chance of winning and how many are just making up the numbers?
    You know it makes sense.

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    So far, in five world cups, there have been four different countries which have come out on top.

    The only ones I'd rate as having any chance whatsoever (and I include the smallest chance possible, hence including Ireland ) of winning this year are:

    - New Zealand
    - South Africa
    - France
    - England
    - Australia
    - Argentina
    - Ireland

    Ones that could cause upsets but not go all the way include:
    - Wales
    - Italy
    - Samoa
    - Scotland (although that's unlikely)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltman View Post
    So far, in five world cups, there have been four different countries which have come out on top.

    The only ones I'd rate as having any chance whatsoever (and I include the smallest chance possible, hence including Ireland ) of winning this year are:

    - New Zealand
    - South Africa
    - France
    - England
    - Australia
    - Argentina
    - Ireland

    Ones that could cause upsets but not go all the way include:
    - Wales
    - Italy
    - Samoa
    - Scotland (although that's unlikely)
    Are they in order?

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    Almost - I'd put Australia, Argentina and Ireland above England. I'm sure BoyBrumby will be thrilled to bits with my assessment.


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    Nah, I'd probably agree. Think they're all above us in the bookies list of favs bar yer Argies & that's only 'cos they've got such a turd pool to negotiate.

    The Rugby WC probably suffers from the same problem early on as the cricket one does in that there are too many potential blow-out scores. Its great strength tho is that it is a celebration of the highest level of the sport, test Rugby, unlike the ODI WC.

    Anyway, as arch started the thread, thought I chuck in a spot of trivia: Namibia's Rudi van Vuuren is the only man to have played in both cricket & Rugby world cups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    I will admit do not knowing a great deal about Rugby (but more then most of the AR boys)

    But which is a more fair dinkum World Cup?

    In cricket there are at the most 7 countries that could win the Cup and maybe one or two others that could make the final six

    How many in Rugby would be in with a real chance of winning and how many are just making up the numbers?
    I know alot of Soccer people that try to ridicule Rugby about the fact that only NZ, Aus, SA, France and Eng have a chance of winning the cup.

    But in 5 tournaments we have had 4 different winners, in Soccer, they have only had 7 different winners, and they have been going since 1932, i think....

    And realisticly going into the last soccer world cup, only Italy France Brazil Germany had a real shot at it, anyone else would have been an amazing fluke
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Namibia's Rudi van Vuuren is the only man to have played in both cricket & Rugby world cups.
    thus the reason i included him in both fantasy teams i had at the time.

    imagine doing that for a nation like nz, aus or something...man would be a god.
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    That crap winger/all rounder from NZ did it. Well not two World Cups but played for NZ in rugby and cricket. Micheal Kasprowicz played school boy rugby for Australia. I think i read somewhere that he would have been a better player then his brother Simon who played for NSW and Queensland in the Super 12/14 as flanker. But there in lies the problem for most Australian and Kiwis they have to choose at a young age which sport to play. You can't really play both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    That crap winger/all rounder from NZ did it.
    Jeff Wilson? FYI he was one of the best wingers who has ever pulled on the black jersey, so I'm sure I can speak for the entire nation in telling you not to call him crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    Jeff Wilson? FYI he was one of the best wingers who has ever pulled on the black jersey, so I'm sure I can speak for the entire nation in telling you not to call him crap.
    good call Perm

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    Jeff Wilson was an unbelievable player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyD View Post
    Jeff Wilson was an unbelievable player.
    Yep, one of greatest ever. Had it all on the rugby field did Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Yep, one of greatest ever. Had it all on the rugby field did Wilson
    And off the field to, he was a very fine cricketer, basketballer and swimmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    And off the field to, he was a very fine cricketer, basketballer and swimmer.
    Didn't know about the swimming tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Didn't know about the swimming tbh
    Athletics maybe? I wasn't quite sure, but now that I think about it I'm leaning towards athletics.

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