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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Getting soft in your old age. Actually with a name like Lawrence Bruno Nero Dallaglio he probably sounds one of the least English players ever.

    Anyway, Paul Weaver in The Guardian lists a "possible" (meaning he's probably heard something from someone) England 30. Linky.

    Possible squad

    Forwards

    Andrew Sheridan
    Kevin Yates
    Phil Vickery
    Matt Stevens
    George Chuter
    Lee Mears
    Mark Regan
    Steve Borthwick
    Martin Corry
    Ben Kay
    Tom Palmer
    Lewis Moody
    Joe Worsley
    Lawrence Dallaglio
    Dan Ward-Smith
    Tom Rees

    Backs

    Nick Abendanon
    Andy Gomarsall
    Peter Richards
    Shaun Perry
    Jonny Wilkinson
    Charlie Hodgson
    Toby Flood
    Mike Catt
    Mathew Tait
    Mike Tindall or Jamie Noon
    Jason Robinson
    Mark Cueto
    David Strettle
    Paul Sackey


    No Lewsey the obvious shock. No quite sure how Abendanon is preferred to either him or Cipriani myself, but there you go. Be interesting to see how close he gets.
    What about Iain Balshaw?...never rated him much but thought he would be in the squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    What about Iain Balshaw?...never rated him much but thought he would be in the squad
    More or less constantly injured; think Ashton's given him up as a lost cause cos he wasn't even in the original squad of 47.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    More or less constantly injured; think Ashton's given him up as a lost cause cos he wasn't even in the original squad of 47.
    His sulky behaviour on Lions tours probably didn't help either

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    England XXII for Wales

    Thanks to the Beeb.

    England: Mark Cueto; David Strettle, Dan Hipkiss, Andy Farrell, Jason Robinson; Jonny Wilkinson, Shaun Perry; Andrew Sheridan, Mark Regan, Phil Vickery (captain), Simon Shaw, Steve Borthwick, Martin Corry, Joe Worsley, Nick Easter.
    Replacements: George Chuter, Matt Stevens, Lewis Moody, Lawrence Dallaglio, Peter Richards, Toby Flood, Mathew Tait


    Hmmm.

    Well it's a predictable mix of the first choice with the fringe. Ashton has given at least four players (Hipkiss, Farrell, Shaw & Easter) who might not be on the plane (or Eurostar) as of now to play themselves into or out of contention.

    Back-row looks like a back-row a backs coach would pick too. Corry (who played v Wales & France at lock) is at blindside, Worsley (very much a 6) is at openside & Nick Easter (who'd you'd think would be behind Dallaglio & Ward-Smith) starts at 8.

    The halves & the back-line are probably our current first choices tho. The absences of Abendanon, Cipriani & Lewsey might mean they miss out this time round.


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    I still don't really know about Shaun Perry, decent player but doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have Richards or Ellis (where is he for that matter?) in the 9 slot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCC_legend View Post
    I still don't really know about Shaun Perry, decent player but doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have Richards or Ellis (where is he for that matter?) in the 9 slot.
    Knackered his knee or he'd be our first choice, no doubt. Anterior cruciate I think, so won't be back much before Xmas.

    Sadly we're not overburdened with choice at scrum-half since Matt the mouth gave it away. I prefer Perry to Richards tho on the grounds that Perry has the better distribution.

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    Just back from watching England fairly rip yer Welsh a new one @ Twickers. 62-5! My Wales look average. Admittedly it wasn't there strongest line-up, but to conceed a record score was a bit disappointing. Our pack was very impressive but (weird to say despite the score) our backs aren't gelling yet. Until the very end all our tries came from the forwards or Perry, who played as an adjunct to the pack today.

    Think we'll find out more against the French (which I haven't got ticket for ) next week.

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    Perry was so gun. Centres still look ****, mind.

    What was Brew sin binned for, btw? Are you not allowed to tackle in union?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
    Perry was so gun. Centres still look ****, mind.

    What was Brew sin binned for, btw? Are you not allowed to tackle in union?
    Not without using your arms, no. Pretty cynical IMHO.

    Farrell just doesn't seem to have the legs for it anymore; still has a good Rugby brain, but that will only take you so far.

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    Strettle breaks metatarsal

    Nadgers. England's bogie-bone strikes again. From The Beeb.

    Looks like the young fella might miss out this time.

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    not full potencial

    wilkinson is not at the same potential he had in 2003 so england are going to have to focus more on kicking

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    The England squad for the world cup

    From the BBC.

    Backs (14): M Cueto (Sale Sharks); J Lewsey (Wasps), J Robinson (Sale Sharks), P Sackey (Wasps); D Hipkiss (Leicester), J Noon (Newcastle), M Tait (Newcastle); M Catt (London Irish), A Farrell (Saracens); O Barkley (Bath), J Wilkinson (Newcastle); A Gomarsall (Harlequins), S Perry (Bristol), P Richards (London Irish).

    Forwards (16): G Chuter (Leicester), L Mears (Bath), M Regan (Bristol); P Freshwater (Perpignan), A Sheridan (Sale Sharks), M Stevens (Bath), P Vickery (Wasps); S Borthwick (Bath), M Corry (Leicester), B Kay (Leicester), S Shaw (Wasps); L Dallaglio (Wasps), N Easter (Harlequins), L Moody (Leicester), T Rees (Wasps), J Worsley (Wasps).

    No real huge surprises. Tom Plamer might feel slightly miffed, having gone from starting lock in our last 6 Nations game to missing out altogether, but Shaw, Kay & Borthwick have all performed creditably in the warm-ups & Corry also provides cover in the back row. Barkley may be the luckiest man on the plane as I can only think his superior goal-kicking got him the nod over Flood because I thought his option taking versus France was rather ordinary.

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    Yesterday I was watching the 1991 RWC semifinal, when a doubt came to my mind... Is the Calcutta Cup at stake during the RWC matches between England and Scotland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefano View Post
    Yesterday I was watching the 1991 RWC semifinal, when a doubt came to my mind... Is the Calcutta Cup at stake during the RWC matches between England and Scotland?
    Good question. I don't know! As it happens we already held it in 91 & beat yer sweaties in said semi () so it's a moot point, but had we lost.....?

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    The Calcutta Cup is only contested during the Six Nations tournament.

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