The England Thread

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Perm

Corry at lock? He's a bit short for that, isn't he?

Dunno how tall you think Corry is, but he's about 6' 5". Hardly a shortarse, even in today's terms.For mine he's a better lineout jumper than, say Simon Shaw who's 6' 9" as well. Shaw's such a big unit (used to be 21 stone) the props struggled to get him up.

[Samuel_Vimes]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Lund & (particularly) Geraghty are unlucky.

Blah.

That'll be all.

[Perm]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Dunno how tall you think Corry is, but he's about 6' 5". Hardly a shortarse, even in today's terms.For mine he's a better lineout jumper than, say Simon Shaw who's 6' 9" as well. Shaw's such a big unit (used to be 21 stone) the props struggled to get him up.

I'm afraid I don't work in your fancy system of feet and inches, roughly how many centimetres is that?

[steds]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Well some of us rate him, but unfortunately we don't pick the squad. Leaves Tom Rees as our only specialist open side too, so really can't see the logic. Hey-ho.

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Without looking I'd guess he'd have about ten caps, mainly from the bench. It's infuriating because, as well as being a decent ball-winning 7, he's tall so he's another line-out option too. FTR I rate Rees above him, but if he's crocked now we'd have to go with Moody who's really more of a 6-and-a-half than a 7.

What's the difference between blindside and openside?

[steds]

Originally Posted by Perm

I'm afraid I don't work in your fancy system of feet and inches, roughly how many centimetres is that?

195

[Perm]

Originally Posted by steds

What's the difference between blindside and openside?

The openside has to be a genuine 'fetcher' of the loose ball.

[Perm]

Originally Posted by steds

195

Oh okay, in any case I didn't think Corry looked as tall as that.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by steds

What's the difference between blindside and openside?

Originally Posted by Perm

The openside has to be a genuine 'fetcher' of the loose ball.

Pretty much what Perm says. Both flankers are really the guys who look to secure possession (which is why league with its uncontested recycling of possession did away with them) but opensides (as the name suggests) in scrums pack down on the side where the scrum-half will (probably) be looking to pass the ball to his 10, so a good 7 will always be looking to collar either before they get the chance to do something with it.

Blindside flankers (in theory) have less space to cover than their mates on the openside, so tend to be bigger & probably do more actual ball-carrying like a No 8 would too.

[steds]

Oh ok. Just wondered why Farrell couldn't do it if he was in the squad. He sure as hell isn't a centre.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by steds

Oh ok. Just wondered why Farrell couldn't do it if he was in the squad. He sure as hell isn't a centre.

Beacuse he sure as hell isn't a rugby union player

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Beacuse he sure as hell isn't a rugby union player

Well give him back then.

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Well give him back then.

Gladly

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Well give him back then.

Could be back in league quick smart if the Mirror is to be believed. Reckons he'll be one of the next five to be cut:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/...9520-19484021/

[Fiery]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Could be back in league quick smart if the Mirror is to be believed. Reckons he'll be one of the next five to be cut:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/...9520-19484021/

Love the talk from Dallaglio in that article...one of my favourite English players...

Did I just say that?

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Fiery

Love the talk from Dallaglio in that article...one of my favourite English players...

Did I just say that?

Getting soft in your old age. Actually with a name like Lawrence Bruno Nero Dallaglio he probably sounds one of the least English players ever.

Anyway, Paul Weaver in The Guardian lists a "possible" (meaning he's probably heard something from someone) England 30. Linky.

Possible squad

Forwards

Andrew Sheridan
Kevin Yates
Phil Vickery
Matt Stevens
George Chuter
Lee Mears
Mark Regan
Steve Borthwick
Martin Corry
Ben Kay
Tom Palmer
Lewis Moody
Joe Worsley
Lawrence Dallaglio
Dan Ward-Smith
Tom Rees

Backs

Nick Abendanon
Andy Gomarsall
Peter Richards
Shaun Perry
Jonny Wilkinson
Charlie Hodgson
Toby Flood
Mike Catt
Mathew Tait
Mike Tindall or Jamie Noon
Jason Robinson
Mark Cueto
David Strettle
Paul Sackey

No Lewsey the obvious shock. No quite sure how Abendanon is preferred to either him or Cipriani myself, but there you go. Be interesting to see how close he gets.