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    Corry at lock? He's a bit short for that, isn't he?
    Dunno how tall you think Corry is, but he's about 6' 5". Hardly a shortarse, even in today's terms.For mine he's a better lineout jumper than, say Simon Shaw who's 6' 9" as well. Shaw's such a big unit (used to be 21 stone) the props struggled to get him up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Dunno how tall you think Corry is, but he's about 6' 5". Hardly a shortarse, even in today's terms.For mine he's a better lineout jumper than, say Simon Shaw who's 6' 9" as well. Shaw's such a big unit (used to be 21 stone) the props struggled to get him up.
    I'm afraid I don't work in your fancy system of feet and inches, roughly how many centimetres is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Well some of us rate him, but unfortunately we don't pick the squad. Leaves Tom Rees as our only specialist open side too, so really can't see the logic. Hey-ho.
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    Without looking I'd guess he'd have about ten caps, mainly from the bench. It's infuriating because, as well as being a decent ball-winning 7, he's tall so he's another line-out option too. FTR I rate Rees above him, but if he's crocked now we'd have to go with Moody who's really more of a 6-and-a-half than a 7.
    What's the difference between blindside and openside?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    I'm afraid I don't work in your fancy system of feet and inches, roughly how many centimetres is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
    What's the difference between blindside and openside?
    The openside has to be a genuine 'fetcher' of the loose ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
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    Oh okay, in any case I didn't think Corry looked as tall as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
    What's the difference between blindside and openside?
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    The openside has to be a genuine 'fetcher' of the loose ball.
    Pretty much what Perm says. Both flankers are really the guys who look to secure possession (which is why league with its uncontested recycling of possession did away with them) but opensides (as the name suggests) in scrums pack down on the side where the scrum-half will (probably) be looking to pass the ball to his 10, so a good 7 will always be looking to collar either before they get the chance to do something with it.

    Blindside flankers (in theory) have less space to cover than their mates on the openside, so tend to be bigger & probably do more actual ball-carrying like a No 8 would too.
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    Oh ok. Just wondered why Farrell couldn't do it if he was in the squad. He sure as hell isn't a centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steds View Post
    Oh ok. Just wondered why Farrell couldn't do it if he was in the squad. He sure as hell isn't a centre.
    Beacuse he sure as hell isn't a rugby union player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Beacuse he sure as hell isn't a rugby union player
    Well give him back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Well give him back then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Well give him back then.
    Could be back in league quick smart if the Mirror is to be believed. Reckons he'll be one of the next five to be cut:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/...9520-19484021/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Could be back in league quick smart if the Mirror is to be believed. Reckons he'll be one of the next five to be cut:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby/...9520-19484021/
    Love the talk from Dallaglio in that article...one of my favourite English players...

    Did I just say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiery View Post
    Love the talk from Dallaglio in that article...one of my favourite English players...

    Did I just say that?
    Getting soft in your old age. Actually with a name like Lawrence Bruno Nero Dallaglio he probably sounds one of the least English players ever.

    Anyway, Paul Weaver in The Guardian lists a "possible" (meaning he's probably heard something from someone) England 30. Linky.

    Possible squad

    Forwards

    Andrew Sheridan
    Kevin Yates
    Phil Vickery
    Matt Stevens
    George Chuter
    Lee Mears
    Mark Regan
    Steve Borthwick
    Martin Corry
    Ben Kay
    Tom Palmer
    Lewis Moody
    Joe Worsley
    Lawrence Dallaglio
    Dan Ward-Smith
    Tom Rees

    Backs

    Nick Abendanon
    Andy Gomarsall
    Peter Richards
    Shaun Perry
    Jonny Wilkinson
    Charlie Hodgson
    Toby Flood
    Mike Catt
    Mathew Tait
    Mike Tindall or Jamie Noon
    Jason Robinson
    Mark Cueto
    David Strettle
    Paul Sackey


    No Lewsey the obvious shock. No quite sure how Abendanon is preferred to either him or Cipriani myself, but there you go. Be interesting to see how close he gets.

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