The Final: France vs NZ - Page 2

Hurricane · 17-10-2011, 12:21 AM

Good call on Cruden some months ago James he has looked the business.

Quaggas · 17-10-2011, 12:25 AM

France:2011::England:2007

Not a snowball's chance.

ohtani's jacket · 17-10-2011, 12:43 AM

Well, France were the last side to beat us at Eden Park but I can't see the All Blacks losing from here. Surely that semi got the monkey off their back.

James · 17-10-2011, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane

Good call on Cruden some months ago James he has looked the business.

Yes, I think it's safe to say Cruden has clearly over-taken Slade now and hopefully he becomes Carter's full backup when he's back to full fitness and they don't go back to Slade.

I'm picking an 8 point win to the All Blacks. 24-16.

Howe_zat · 17-10-2011, 01:37 AM

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I told them they are a bunch of spoiled brats. Undisciplined, disobedient, sometimes selfish. Always complaining, always whinging.

Marc Lievremont has an odd method of talking his side up ahead of the biggest match of their careers.

Mike5181 · 17-10-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Yes, I think it's safe to say Cruden has clearly over-taken Slade now and hopefully he becomes Carter's full backup when he's back to full fitness and they don't go back to Slade.

I'm picking an 8 point win to the All Blacks. 24-16.

Yeah, he was told he had cancer at the age of 19 and he's now an All Black three years later. That sort of determination/maturity probably puts him in better stead to cope with the sort of pressure involved in a game like this. Collin Slade was even quite flakey against Japan.

I personally think we will win by twenty points against France.

Scaly piscine · 18-10-2011, 12:01 PM

Would be nice to actually see a few tries in a final as well as a contest. I doubt we'll get both and either alone may be pushing it.

Mike5181 · 18-10-2011, 07:18 PM

Yeah, it would be nice to see the French turn up and make a game of it as well.

Hurricane · 18-10-2011, 10:56 PM

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Yeah, it would be nice to see the French turn up and make a game of it as well.

No just no.

We want to win handsomely. If it is close france may win. I used to want close games but not in the world cup.

Athlai · 18-10-2011, 11:21 PM

I can't decide what I'd enjoy more tbh. The All Blacks winning the world cup

or the **** storm that would follow if we didn't and choked once more against the French

Quaggas · 18-10-2011, 11:21 PM

For a final you want to play the percentage game. Perhaps, if you're NZ, you don't have to bother, though.

Edit: IMO, NZ rugby makes the AT Wi & Oz cricket sides look like amateurs.

Mike5181 · 18-10-2011, 11:29 PM

This back line would surely rate as one of the best ever if Carter was in at 10.

Quaggas · 18-10-2011, 11:41 PM

I meant NZ rugby over the last 100-odd years, tbh.

Athlai · 19-10-2011, 12:13 AM

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This back line would surely rate as one of the best ever if Carter was in at 10.

Reckon despite Weepu being a very very talented player he still lacks in fitness and discipline so puts him at a lower standard than a few of the other great NZ 9s. Never know where he could be in a few years time though.

Weepu (N)
Carter (Y)
Kahui (?) ...probably not right up there but solid
Nonu (Y)
Smith (A begrudging Y) Solid as heck if sort of unremarkable
Jane (Y)
Dagg (YY) Makes Mils look like a talentless hack.

Doesn't match up to the 97 backline
Marshall
Mehrtens
Lomu
Little
Bunce
Wilson
Cullen

And after Bunce left Umaga came in.

centurymaker · 19-10-2011, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike5181

Yeah, it would be nice to see the French turn up and make a game of it as well.

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Originally Posted by Hurricane

No just no.

We want to win handsomely. If it is close france may win. I used to want close games but not in the world cup.

one side of me wants france to put up a fight for like 40-50 mins, while the other side of me would like to see a complete AB domination....

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17-10-2011, 12:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
Quaggas International 12th Man Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,531	France:2011::England:2007 Not a snowball's chance.

17-10-2011, 12:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
ohtani's jacket State Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,244	Well, France were the last side to beat us at Eden Park but I can't see the All Blacks losing from here. Surely that semi got the monkey off their back.

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Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,381	Yeah, it would be nice to see the French turn up and make a game of it as well.

18-10-2011, 11:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,381	This back line would surely rate as one of the best ever if Carter was in at 10.

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Quaggas International 12th Man Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,531	I meant NZ rugby over the last 100-odd years, tbh.

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