Semi Final 2 - NZ v Australia - Eden Park

Zinzan · 09-10-2011, 04:19 AM

A toss of the coin for me. From an NZ POV, I just hope the AB's play it like they would a final and leave no stone unturned because if they can beat Aust, that's the WC for me. I just can't see Wales or France (yes France) getting up over us at Eden Park in a final.

Aust still worry me though, even with their suspect scrum. Poccock, Ioane, Genia & Beale give me the sh**ts while McCaw & Reid both look a shadow of what they were in 2010. I hope we start with Cruden, he gives me a lot more confidence than Colin Slade.

Thoughts on this one?

Somerset · 09-10-2011, 04:26 AM

Pocock for me is the biggest threat of that group of Australians you've mentioned; if hes as influential against the ABs as he was against the Boks then the Wallabies have a chance. If hes taken out of the game then no matter how well Ioane, Genia and Beale are threatening to play, I can't see Australia winning. Argentina in a way set out how to stall the ABs momentum and that doesn't necessarily involve having the ball for long periods. If Australia defend as well as they did against South Africa and can be as successful at the breakdown as they were today, with Pocock the main protagonist, they're a shot at causing an upset.

I'd much prefer the ABs discard Slade and run with Cruden who was far more composed in his 50 minutes or so this evening than Slade's been throughout the entire season. Cruden's been dominating ITM Cup and his performance tonight on the international stage won't have knocked him back in any way. My first choice would still be Weepu but if the selectors are intent on a 'specialist' 10, then my money's on Cruden.

centurymaker · 09-10-2011, 04:49 AM

good post yet again.

Burgey · 09-10-2011, 04:54 AM

Can a Mod sticky this please?

Think we're a shot, but we'd be a bigger shot if it was being played anywhere else.

morgieb · 09-10-2011, 04:57 AM

C'mon Wallabies!

Whoever wins this wins the final, imho.

morgieb · 09-10-2011, 04:59 AM

**** is it at Eden Park? Ghey....

centurymaker · 09-10-2011, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morgieb

**** is it at Eden Park? Ghey....

Howe_zat · 09-10-2011, 06:12 AM

This is usually the point where the ABs lose for no particular reason, isn't it?

benchmark00 · 09-10-2011, 08:57 AM

If the Wallabies play like they did today then they'll get beaten by 50+.

I don't think they will though.

_Ed_ · 09-10-2011, 04:09 PM

Nervous, tbh.

ripper868 · 09-10-2011, 06:26 PM

Genia and Cooper for MOM - behind Pocock of course

Athlai · 09-10-2011, 07:01 PM

Cooper for another MOTM performance.

Burgey · 09-10-2011, 07:14 PM

_Ed_ · 09-10-2011, 08:13 PM

Rugby: Stephen Donald and Hosea Gear called into ABs | ALL BLACKS News

Happy to see Gear in there, but Donald? Jeez.

HeathDavisSpeed · 09-10-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ed_

Happy to see Gear in there, but Donald? Jeez.

Why is it okay to call up Donald (now based in Bath, is it?) but not Nick Evans?

Injury problems. Everyone seems to have gone down at some point. But if it gets to the point where Donald's playing, I give up.

09-10-2011, 04:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,740	Semi Final 2 - NZ v Australia - Eden Park A toss of the coin for me. From an NZ POV, I just hope the AB's play it like they would a final and leave no stone unturned because if they can beat Aust, that's the WC for me. I just can't see Wales or France (yes France) getting up over us at Eden Park in a final. Aust still worry me though, even with their suspect scrum. Poccock, Ioane, Genia & Beale give me the sh*ts while McCaw & Reid both look a shadow of what they were in 2010. I hope we start with Cruden, he gives me a lot more confidence than Colin Slade. Thoughts on this one? Last edited by Zinzan; 09-10-2011 at 04:20 AM.*

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Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,159	Can a Mod sticky this please? Think we're a shot, but we'd be a bigger shot if it was being played anywhere else. __________________ WWCC - Loyaulte Mi Lie "People make me happy.. not places.. people" "When a man is tired of London, he is tired of life." - Samuel Johnson "Oh my God, there's a castle! A castle!"

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morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,944	C'mon Wallabies! Whoever wins this wins the final, imho. __________________ 4-0 RIP Craig Walsh (Craig) 1985-2012 Proudly supporting the #2 cricketer of all time.

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Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,912	This is usually the point where the ABs lose for no particular reason, isn't it? __________________ Maybe we wouldn't be so quick to fill buckets with filth if we knew they had a soul. Or maybe that's what they're into. Ain't no way to get inside a bucket's mind.

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ripper868 Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Nest Posts: 8,271	Genia and Cooper for MOM - behind Pocock of course __________________ Parmi Avatar not by choice.

09-10-2011, 04:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
Somerset Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 9,863	Pocock for me is the biggest threat of that group of Australians you've mentioned; if hes as influential against the ABs as he was against the Boks then the Wallabies have a chance. If hes taken out of the game then no matter how well Ioane, Genia and Beale are threatening to play, I can't see Australia winning. Argentina in a way set out how to stall the ABs momentum and that doesn't necessarily involve having the ball for long periods. If Australia defend as well as they did against South Africa and can be as successful at the breakdown as they were today, with Pocock the main protagonist, they're a shot at causing an upset. I'd much prefer the ABs discard Slade and run with Cruden who was far more composed in his 50 minutes or so this evening than Slade's been throughout the entire season. Cruden's been dominating ITM Cup and his performance tonight on the international stage won't have knocked him back in any way. My first choice would still be Weepu but if the selectors are intent on a 'specialist' 10, then my money's on Cruden.

09-10-2011, 04:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
centurymaker International Vice-Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 4,256	good post yet again.

09-10-2011, 04:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,944	**** is it at Eden Park? Ghey....

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_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,111	Nervous, tbh.

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Burgey Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Castle Posts: 35,159

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_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,111	Rugby: Stephen Donald and Hosea Gear called into ABs \| ALL BLACKS News Happy to see Gear in there, but Donald? Jeez.

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