Knockout Stage - General Discussion

[BoyBrumby]

Francois Pienaar having a massive whinge about the penalty on our coverage up here. Matfield laid hands on Samo at the line-out; she's a pen.

Lawrence made several dubious calls to pick on so it seems like the worst case of sour grapes ever to moan about one of the minority he got right.

[Burgey]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Francois Pienaar having a massive whinge about the penalty on our coverage up here. Matfield laid hands on Samo at the line-out; she's a pen.

Lawrence made several dubious calls to pick on so it seems like the worst case of sour grapes ever to moan about one of the minority he got right.

I think it's fair to say SA had ample chances. 75% of the game played in our half.

Mind you, Matfield played a blinder.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Francois Pienaar having a massive whinge about the penalty on our coverage up here. Matfield laid hands on Samo at the line-out; she's a pen.

Lawrence made several dubious calls to pick on so it seems like the worst case of sour grapes ever to moan about one of the minority he got right.

There was two penalties in the lineout, the Matfield one but it was the Saffie #4 that conceded it, took out Samo's legs when he was in the air.

[centurymaker]

quite pleased right now.

[Athlai]

Early call:

Slade MOTM

[Somerset]

Fantastic match to watch. Do feel for the Boks who dominated in everything but the scoreline. 75% territory and making the opposition make three times as many tackles and still losing is almost unheard of (although I do remember similar statistics for a team that lost a match in Cardiff four years ago, slips my mind what team that was). I'm not saying every one of Pocock's turnovers was legal but his efforts were tremendous. Big game from Horwill too. Genia was also great and he had to be given Cooper's ineptitude. Not sure whether it was through being directed to or his own decision, but Bryce Lawrence seemed awefully leniant on potential infringements - I imagine most South African fans will be commenting a lot regarding his performance.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by benchmark00

There was two penalties in the lineout, the Matfield one but it was the Saffie #4 that conceded it, took out Samo's legs when he was in the air.

Thought that was the touch judge ****ing up the call to be honest. My reading was that he mistook Matfield for Rossouw.

[Somerset]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Francois Pienaar having a massive whinge about the penalty on our coverage up here. Matfield laid hands on Samo at the line-out; she's a pen.

Lawrence made several dubious calls to pick on so it seems like the worst case of sour grapes ever to moan about one of the minority he got right.

Actually I think the assistant referee called that penalty on Roussouw for taking out Samo's legs, not Matfield dragging him down - he definitely said the penalty was against number 4 (Roussouw) when talking with Lawrence.

Edit: Ah too slow, already discussed above.

[benchmark00]

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Thought that was the touch judge ****ing up the call to be honest. My reading was that he mistook Matfield for Rossouw.

Nah Rossouw definitely took Samo's legs out for mine, but the Matfield hands was also a penalty imo.

[Quaggas]

No problems with Lawrence. You get 'em for and against.

[BoyBrumby]

Originally Posted by Quaggas

No problems with Lawrence. You get 'em for and against.

Yeah, he was generally merde, but didn't seem to favour one side over the other especially.

Crumb of comfort for NZ: no team who's lost a game in the tournament has ever won the cup. The only unbeaten team remaining...?

[centurymaker]

Originally Posted by Somerset

Fantastic match to watch. Do feel for the Boks who dominated in everything but the scoreline. 75% territory and making the opposition make three times as many tackles and still losing is almost unheard of (although I do remember similar statistics for a team that lost a match in Cardiff four years ago, slips my mind what team that was). I'm not saying every one of Pocock's turnovers was legal but his efforts were tremendous. Big game from Horwill too. Genia was also great and he had to be given Cooper's ineptitude. Not sure whether it was through being directed to or his own decision, but Bryce Lawrence seemed awefully leniant on potential infringements - I imagine most South African fans will be commenting a lot regarding his performance.

Lawrence was helping the all blacks out by getting rid of the superior team.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Somerset

Fantastic match to watch. Do feel for the Boks who dominated in everything but the scoreline. 75% territory and making the opposition make three times as many tackles and still losing is almost unheard of (although I do remember similar statistics for a team that lost a match in Cardiff four years ago, slips my mind what team that was). I'm not saying every one of Pocock's turnovers was legal but his efforts were tremendous. Big game from Horwill too. Genia was also great and he had to be given Cooper's ineptitude. Not sure whether it was through being directed to or his own decision, but Bryce Lawrence seemed awefully leniant on potential infringements - I imagine most South African fans will be commenting a lot regarding his performance.

Horwill got the only try - he Oconnor, Pocock - were the three that kept their head's when the pressure came on.

I think Barnes has to play McCabe missed a tackle early and if he is in the team to tackle then that is inexcusable.

DeVilliers played the best I have ever seen him play.

I think SA lost the game on the try. They won a line out on their 5M line and tried to run it out of their own goal line. Why I will never know but it wasn't percentage rugby - just kick the thing up the field.

Also the typical SA game is up and unders and plenty of penalty kicks. Australia just wouldn't infringe and I am not sure why SA didn't do more up and unders when they did them Aussie looked shaky.

I did back Aussie to win but not like that. I expected their running game to be too much for SA. But Aussie didn't really run it - they wanted to play territory instead. Which just meant kicking the ball away to SA.

I think to beat the ABs Australia must try to use their forwards to muscle it up and then spin the ball wide. Enough of this kicking for territory unless they are in their own 22.

Poor coaching from Robbie Deans he is lucky to get the win - it, the win, was against the run of the game and only happened because Pocock created important turnovers - and SA dropped the ball at vital times.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Athlai

Early call:

Slade MOTM

I think a victory for him would be finishing the full 80 without getting subbed off.

[Burgey]

Originally Posted by centurymaker

Lawrence was helping the all blacks out by getting rid of the superior team.

NZ's belated revenge for Suzie the waitress from 95.