Pool B - Argentina, England, Georgia, Romania, Scotland

James · 20-07-2011, 03:48 AM

10 September 2011
13:00 Scotland v Romania Rugby Park Stadium, Invercargill
Referee: Dave Pearson (England)

10 September 2011
20:30 Argentina v England Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Referee: Bryce Lawrence (New Zealand)

14 September 2011
19:30 Scotland v Georgia Rugby Park Stadium, Invercargill
Referee: George Clancy (Ireland)

17 September 2011
15:30 Argentina v Romania Rugby Park Stadium, Invercargill
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)

18 September 2011
18:00 England v Georgia Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Referee: Jonathan Kaplan (South Africa)

24 September 2011
18:00 England v Romania Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
Referee: Romain Poite (France)

25 September 2011
20:30 Argentina v Scotland Wellington Regional Stadium, Wellington
Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)

28 September 2011
19:30 Georgia v Romania Arena Manawatu, Palmerston North
Referee: Dave Pearson (England)

1 October 2011
20:30 England v Scotland Eden Park, Auckland
Referee: Craig Joubert (South Africa)

2 October 2011
13:00 Argentina v Georgia Arena Manawatu, Palmerston North
Referee: Alain Rolland (Ireland)

Bonnie Prince C · 20-07-2011, 11:32 AM

Well at least we know Scotland have this group tied up.

BoyBrumby · 20-07-2011, 11:43 AM

Be a fair old scrap for second between Scotland and Argentina. The sweaties have had some good results against the Pumas of late.

Pretty sure England should win it.

Bonnie Prince C · 20-07-2011, 11:46 AM

When do England ever play as well as they should? Scotland have it sewn up.

BoyBrumby · 20-07-2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonnie Prince C

When do England ever play as well as they should? Scotland have it sewn up.

World Cups. Four semis, three finals and a win plays one semi.

Howe_zat · 20-07-2011, 12:34 PM

Pretty sure they didn't play as they should in 2007. Well above and beyond.

This one's looking like a pretty favourable draw for England.

Bonnie Prince C · 20-07-2011, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

World Cups. Four semis, three finals and a win plays one semi.

Living in the past I see.

ripper868 · 20-07-2011, 05:36 PM

1. Argentina
2. Scotland
3.Georgia
4. Romania
5. England - Following point deduction for playing an ineligble player (due to admin cover-ups and false Grandmas it will be discovered one quarter of the England team is in fact not English)

EddieM · 21-07-2011, 03:46 PM

1. England
2. Argentina
3. Georgia
4. Romania
5. Scotland

Somerset · 09-08-2011, 10:30 PM

Arguably Argentina's best player, Juan Martin Hernandez not named in the Pumas' WC squad due to injury:
Rugby: Argentina's Hernandez out of World Cup - Rugby World Cup - NZ Herald News

Thats rather disappointing given how impressively he performed in the 2007 tournament.

ripper868 · 09-08-2011, 10:57 PM

Thats bad news for the Argies, Hernanadez is a fantastic player.

Odds of them causing an upset just diminished significantly.

Hurricane · 10-08-2011, 02:12 AM

Bring back Porter.

ripper868 · 10-08-2011, 06:32 AM

Porta*

Jamee999 · 21-08-2011, 08:24 AM

Scotland
Romania
Argentina
Georgia
England

BoyBrumby · 22-08-2011, 01:25 PM

From the BBC.

Forwards: (17)

Props: Dan Cole (Leicester, Age 24, 17 caps), Alex Corbisiero (London Irish, 22, 6), Andrew Sheridan (Sale, 31, 38), Matt Stevens (Saracens, 28, 34), David Wilson (Bath, 26, 18).

Hookers: Dylan Hartley (Northampton, 25, 29), Lee Mears (Bath, 32, 37), Steve Thompson (Wasps, 33, 67).

Locks: Louis Deacon (Leicester, 30, 24), Courtney Lawes (Northampton, 22, 9), Tom Palmer (Stade Francais, 32, 27), Simon Shaw (unattached, 37, 67).

Back row: Tom Croft (Leicester, 25, 25), Nick Easter (Harlequins, 33, 44), James Haskell (Ricoh Black Rams, 26, 36), Lewis Moody (Bath, 33, 67), Tom Wood (Northampton, 24, 7).

Backs: (13)

Full-backs/wings: Delon Armitage (London Irish, 27, 20), Ben Foden (Northampton, 26, 16), Chris Ashton (Northampton, 24, 12), Mark Cueto (Sale, 31, 52).

Centres: Matt Banahan (Bath, 24, 13), Shontayne Hape (London Irish, 30, 12), Mike Tindall (Gloucester, 32, 71), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester, 20, 1).

Fly-halves: Toby Flood (Leicester, 26, 41), Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon, 32, 86).

Scrum-halves: Joe Simpson (Wasps, 23, 0), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 28, 7), Ben Youngs (Leicester, 21, 12).

---

No Flutey is the big news, I suppose.

Few areas of concern for me. 3 scrum-halves is one too many when Foden's more than capable of covering 9 & 4 specialist locks similarly, when Croft and even Wood could be used there in extremis.

Centres & fly-halves the big areas of concern for me. Only two specialist tens and no specialist insides is a strange call. I presume it means Hape will play 12, but really if a bloke who can't pass off his left hand and who has no kicking game at all is the answer we're clearly asking the wrong question.

20-07-2011, 03:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
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20-07-2011, 11:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,658	Be a fair old scrap for second between Scotland and Argentina. The sweaties have had some good results against the Pumas of late. Pretty sure England should win it. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

20-07-2011, 12:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Howe_zat International Coach Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Top floor, bottom buzzer Posts: 13,911	Pretty sure they didn't play as they should in 2007. Well above and beyond. This one's looking like a pretty favourable draw for England. __________________ Maybe we wouldn't be so quick to fill buckets with filth if we knew they had a soul. Or maybe that's what they're into. Ain't no way to get inside a bucket's mind.

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ripper868 Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Nest Posts: 8,271	1. Argentina 2. Scotland 3.Georgia 4. Romania 5. England - Following point deduction for playing an ineligble player (due to admin cover-ups and false Grandmas it will be discovered one quarter of the England team is in fact not English) __________________ Parmi Avatar not by choice.

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Hurricane International Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wellington Posts: 7,363	Bring back Porter. __________________ Munro watch: Auckland 47,103, 27, 269*, 59, 118 Tests 0,15

20-07-2011, 11:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bonnie Prince C U19 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 255	Well at least we know Scotland have this group tied up.

20-07-2011, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bonnie Prince C U19 12th Man Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 255	When do England ever play as well as they should? Scotland have it sewn up.

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EddieM Cricket Spectator Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 17	1. England 2. Argentina 3. Georgia 4. Romania 5. Scotland

09-08-2011, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Somerset Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 9,863	Arguably Argentina's best player, Juan Martin Hernandez not named in the Pumas' WC squad due to injury: Rugby: Argentina's Hernandez out of World Cup - Rugby World Cup - NZ Herald News Thats rather disappointing given how impressively he performed in the 2007 tournament.

09-08-2011, 10:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
ripper868 Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Nest Posts: 8,271	Thats bad news for the Argies, Hernanadez is a fantastic player. Odds of them causing an upset just diminished significantly.

10-08-2011, 06:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
ripper868 Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Nest Posts: 8,271	Porta*

21-08-2011, 08:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jamee999 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Leicestershire, UK Posts: 15,068	Scotland Romania Argentina Georgia England __________________ Or something. RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1/11/1990 - 15/4/2006 Last edited by Jamee999; 21-08-2011 at 08:25 AM. Reason: scotland or romania beating england will lead to unprecedented levels of trolling

22-08-2011, 01:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,658	England squad announced From the BBC. Forwards: (17) Props: Dan Cole (Leicester, Age 24, 17 caps), Alex Corbisiero (London Irish, 22, 6), Andrew Sheridan (Sale, 31, 38), Matt Stevens (Saracens, 28, 34), David Wilson (Bath, 26, 18). Hookers: Dylan Hartley (Northampton, 25, 29), Lee Mears (Bath, 32, 37), Steve Thompson (Wasps, 33, 67). Locks: Louis Deacon (Leicester, 30, 24), Courtney Lawes (Northampton, 22, 9), Tom Palmer (Stade Francais, 32, 27), Simon Shaw (unattached, 37, 67). Back row: Tom Croft (Leicester, 25, 25), Nick Easter (Harlequins, 33, 44), James Haskell (Ricoh Black Rams, 26, 36), Lewis Moody (Bath, 33, 67), Tom Wood (Northampton, 24, 7). Backs: (13) Full-backs/wings: Delon Armitage (London Irish, 27, 20), Ben Foden (Northampton, 26, 16), Chris Ashton (Northampton, 24, 12), Mark Cueto (Sale, 31, 52). Centres: Matt Banahan (Bath, 24, 13), Shontayne Hape (London Irish, 30, 12), Mike Tindall (Gloucester, 32, 71), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester, 20, 1). Fly-halves: Toby Flood (Leicester, 26, 41), Jonny Wilkinson (Toulon, 32, 86). Scrum-halves: Joe Simpson (Wasps, 23, 0), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 28, 7), Ben Youngs (Leicester, 21, 12). --- No Flutey is the big news, I suppose. Few areas of concern for me. 3 scrum-halves is one too many when Foden's more than capable of covering 9 & 4 specialist locks similarly, when Croft and even Wood could be used there in extremis. Centres & fly-halves the big areas of concern for me. Only two specialist tens and no specialist insides is a strange call. I presume it means Hape will play 12, but really if a bloke who can't pass off his left hand and who has no kicking game at all is the answer we're clearly asking the wrong question.

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