TheBrand
First Class Debutant
They already mentioned he's in the plans for the Pakistan tour, best we can hope for he gets smashed and gets no runs.
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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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Fuller Pilch
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I see Nathan Smith more as a test option. He took 31 wickets at 18.41 in the Plunket Shield (4 day comp) and averaged 21 with the bat (overall avs are 27 bat, 30 ball).
Flem274*
123/5
His List A stats are respectable tbh, and on the improve.
I see Neesh as the better bat and Smith the better bowler, but both should get good game time rather than playing the same side every game.
The names I'm throwing out are less relevant than the attitude I want from management, which is to build an experienced and proven squad.
They can even continue their thing with Macewell if they believe in his batting - I can see how Macewell's high strike rate, top order experience and serviceable List A average could be conducive to a #6 ODI role - I just want them to stop pretending he's in any way comparable with Ajaz in tests or a true spinner.
I see Neesh as the better bat and Smith the better bowler, but both should get good game time rather than playing the same side every game.
The names I'm throwing out are less relevant than the attitude I want from management, which is to build an experienced and proven squad.
They can even continue their thing with Macewell if they believe in his batting - I can see how Macewell's high strike rate, top order experience and serviceable List A average could be conducive to a #6 ODI role - I just want them to stop pretending he's in any way comparable with Ajaz in tests or a true spinner.
TheBrand
First Class Debutant
This - although I would argue that Glenn Phillips' all those attributes and is 6 years younger so get him in there full time.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
He's also a right hander (unlike Bracewell) and we already have lots of lefties - Conway (who may bat down at 4), Latham, Neesham, and Santner.
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While a few members of the team are definitely worthy of the name, I had to chuckle at who opened the batting for the 'New Zealand Legends'.
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thierry henry
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Ironically the star of the South African batting was an opener with even lesser international credentials - 1 game, 1 innings, zero runs, bowled Bond for a duck in 2005.While a few members of the team are definitely worthy of the name, I had to chuckle at who opened the batting for the 'New Zealand Legends'.
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thundaboult
International Debutant
Is Ravindra an option for the odi team? lol
Howsie
International Captain
I definitely like him way more than most (Kippax definitely isn’t a fan) but we really have to try and give Josh Clarkson a decent run before the 2023 World Cup. He’s probably the cleanest striker of a ball I’ve seen out of New Zealand since a young Guptill.
12 months out from the World Cup I’m looking at
1. Guptill/Allen/Phillps
2. Guptill/Allen/Phillps
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Mitchell/Chapman/
6. Neesham/Clarkson/Cleavwr
7. Neesham/Clarkson/Santner
8. Santner/Rippon/Jamieson/Smith
9. Henry/Milne/Sears
10. Ferguson/Milne/Sears
11. Boult
I like Conway in the middle order, Phillips has always been a top order bat in one day cricket, think he’s better suited against pace anyway.
Southee and Latham are done, give Guptill till Xmas see how he’s getting on then make the move to Allen and Phillips.
12 months out from the World Cup I’m looking at
1. Guptill/Allen/Phillps
2. Guptill/Allen/Phillps
3. Williamson
4. Conway
5. Mitchell/Chapman/
6. Neesham/Clarkson/Cleavwr
7. Neesham/Clarkson/Santner
8. Santner/Rippon/Jamieson/Smith
9. Henry/Milne/Sears
10. Ferguson/Milne/Sears
11. Boult
I like Conway in the middle order, Phillips has always been a top order bat in one day cricket, think he’s better suited against pace anyway.
Southee and Latham are done, give Guptill till Xmas see how he’s getting on then make the move to Allen and Phillips.
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
Clarkson should've let the BBL scouts lure him into a relocation, really. He had to disregard the grudge NZC can sometimes develop against players who go down that route, tell them he just needs a break from all their nurture and coddling to refine some obviously weak aspects of his batting.
Going straight from his cruisy 28 and 35 white ball averages (in the easiest domestic T20 and List A comps for playing spin in the world) to batting in pressure games in a World Cup in India seems like far too great a leap.
Going straight from his cruisy 28 and 35 white ball averages (in the easiest domestic T20 and List A comps for playing spin in the world) to batting in pressure games in a World Cup in India seems like far too great a leap.
NZTailender
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wtf i love chapman now
thierry henry
International Coach
That video just reminded me that not only is Phillips more Bracewell than Bracewell, Chapman is also more Bracewell than Bracewell
Kippax
Cricketer Of The Year
Yes I'd say Chapman, Santner, Katene Clarke and Bowes are indeed the future of NZ batting for the rest of this decade, which we end by having cuddly and increasingly competitive tussles with a whole new raft of teams.
Celebrate the rich diversity and unite it with a common enemy. A petrified dread of a 140+ short ball.
Celebrate the rich diversity and unite it with a common enemy. A petrified dread of a 140+ short ball.
thierry henry
International Coach
Is Macewell the masculine despatcher of Real International Bowling in this equation?
thierry henry
International Coach
tbh "Chapman got donked on the head trying to slog in the 18th over of a T20I that one time he played a high profile game on the telly" is not the deep diving Kippax content I signed up for
Flem274*
123/5
I find it appropriate this picture won't load, to cap off a post taking a snide little swipe at horrific concepts like "multiple ethnicities playing for NZ"
Your favourite players Clarkson and Allen can certainly pull.
Flem274*
123/5
I haven't seen the innings, but his red ball big knocks against full strength India A tend to suggest he has improved at batting in general.
thierry henry
International Coach
The thing that won't load for you is a video of Chapman getting sconed by Stanlake in that 240 vs 240 Eden Park T20I from 2018