Men's Hockey thread

[Salamuddin]

Originally Posted by Beleg

haha, Germany draws with Belgium. this almost eclipses Pakistani woefulness. (we beat canada 3 - 1).

That wasn't such a huge surprise IMO. Belgium are arguably the most improved side in world hockey under their Aussie coach Adam Commens and did defeat the Germans at teh Manchester olympic qualifiers last year.

[Salamuddin]

Originally Posted by Sir Redman

Pretty good, ranked 5th in the world from memory. - I'd expect Pakistan to have a better chance of beating one of those two than your lot, so a draw might be enough.

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Pakistan's ranking probably flatters them a bit tbh.....ever since they lost Sohail Abbas they have looked far more beatable. Muhammad Imran and Imran Warsi have not quite been able to fill Sohail's shoes.

They still have some talented players like Rehant Butt but tbh they are not a patch on Shhabaz's team of 1994 - probably the last truly strong Pakistan side on the world stage.

[Beleg]

They still have some talented players like Rehant Butt but tbh they are not a patch on Shhabaz's team of 1994 - probably the last truly strong Pakistan side on the world stage.

Hmm, I'd say the 1998 side which lost to an extremely strong Dutch side in the 1998 champions trophy was pretty sweet as well.

But in general Pakistani hockey has been on a huge downwards turn during the last decade. I would never in a million years have expected the result against GB in 1998. It doesn't really surprise me today. After Sohail Abbas and Atif Bashir (way back when), we haven't produced a world class player.

[Salamuddin]

Originally Posted by Beleg

Hmm, I'd say the 1998 side which lost to an extremely strong Dutch side in the 1998 champions trophy was pretty sweet as well.

But in general Pakistani hockey has been on a huge downwards turn during the last decade. I would never in a million years have expected the result against GB in 1998. It doesn't really surprise me today. After Sohail Abbas and Atif Bashir (way back when), we haven't produced a world class player.

That's a tad harsh on Rehan Butt and Shakeel Abbasi both of whom are very fine players. Whatever happened to Kashif Jawwad btw ?
Pakistan's problem is much the same as India's - their coaching and admin are light years behind those of other countries.

[Johnners]

For those that know their hockey, are you able to tell me what significance the dotted semi-circle holds in front of each goal?

Kookaburras vs Netherlands has been great to watch so far. Especially seeing as we're leading

[PhoenixFire]

Originally Posted by Clapo

For those that know their hockey, are you able to tell me what significance the dotted semi-circle holds in front of each goal?

Are you talking about the 'D'?

You can only score from inside it and any foul commited inside it by the defending team concedes a PC and any foul commited by the attacking team concedes a hit outside the 'D'.

[Johnners]

There's the solid D, which I understand, but then about 3 metres further out there's a broken D.

**** Dutch level the scores with 25 seconds to go. Reckon the bloke who scored both should've been sent off though [/bias]

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by Clapo

For those that know their hockey, are you able to tell me what significance the dotted semi-circle holds in front of each goal?

Kookaburras vs Netherlands has been great to watch so far. Especially seeing as we're leading

It'd be the 5 yard line I think. No idea under what circumstances it's significant though. It's been years since I played hockey.

If we could manage to not give the Dutch any penalty corners they'd never score.

[PhoenixFire]

Didn't get to catch any of the Aus v Ned game, the BBC thought it was more important to show re-runs of Diving than the 2 best teams in world hockey going against each other

Was Taeke Taekema (sp?) the reason behind the Dutch scoring from PCs?

[GIMH]

Don't you have freeview or any form of digital you could have red buttoned it on?

Try the iPlayer now, can get pretty much everything on there

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Didn't get to catch any of the Aus v Ned game, the BBC thought it was more important to show re-runs of Diving than the 2 best teams in world hockey going against each other

Was Taeke Taekema (sp?) the reason behind the Dutch scoring from PCs?

Yeah Taekema scored both of their goals from PCs. Should've been off imo, took out Ockenden in a fairly dangerous and quite late tackle early in the 2nd half. Only received a Green Card for it (of course, I'm bias though )

[PhoenixFire]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Don't you have freeview or any form of digital you could have red buttoned it on?

Try the iPlayer now, can get pretty much everything on there

Nah, I have everything like that, it just wasn't on any of the 7 mother****ing screens!!!

[Sir Redman]

Absolutely gutted with NZ not qualifying, can't believe we didn't beat China. Were all over them, but just couldn't put the ball in. And China's second goal came from a bull**** PC too. FFS. Haven't seen our game vs Germany yet, but I was never confident about beating them. Hopefully Spain thrash Korea tonight, and then we'll be playing for 5th.

On another note, the broken D outside the circle is 5m from the solid D, and for any free hit inside it all players must be 5m from the ball (as opposed to only opposition players).

[GIMH]

Originally Posted by PhoenixFire

Nah, I have everything like that, it just wasn't on any of the 7 mother****ing screens!!!

That's stupid, with the tecnhology available you think you'd be pretty much able to choose anything, even if it's basic cameras and no commentary

[PhoenixFire]

Looking forward to GB getting demolished by Aus in a few minutes.