Olympic football thread

Craig · 23-07-2008, 03:24 AM

Or do you not care? Post tips in here (or not

) on who you might think will win.

Brazil have Ronaldinho in their ranks after AC Milan released him to go to Beijing, while the other Brazilian Diego of German club Werder Breman has given them the two fingered salute. The stupid thing is, why can't they just make it under the FIFA Guidlines and make it easier on everybody and stop these petty arguments which will end up as a full-blown falling out and I wouldn't be surprised if Breman tell Diego to GAFG now. Mind you, he has nobody but himself to blame for that.

BoyBrumby · 23-07-2008, 05:35 AM

Because we don't bother with it* (all due to Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland being nervous about losing their international status if we compete as GB in yer Olympics, appparently) it's always been a bit "meh" to me. Couldn't even tell you who's in it or who the current champions are. Although Argentina (boo, hiss, etc) rings a bell for some reason.

*& we woulda ****ing qualified this time too.

Johnners · 23-07-2008, 06:20 AM

Yeah Argentina are the defending champs.

speirz · 23-07-2008, 11:07 AM

Care a bit about it, especially pissed with Seven's coverage here in Australia.

Argentina as defending champs and with some of their selections should be favourites this time around.

GIMH · 23-07-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

Because we don't bother with it* (all due to Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland being nervous about losing their international status if we compete as GB in yer Olympics, appparently) it's always been a bit "meh" to me. Couldn't even tell you who's in it or who the current champions are. Although Argentina (boo, hiss, etc) rings a bell for some reason.

*& we woulda ****ing qualified this time too.

what makes you say we'd qualify?

Anyway, we were supposed to be playing in 2012 but the provinces don't want to get involved. Should just play the England side as GB IMO. I don't see why they are so arsed about losing international status anyway, it is the only chance most of them will ever get to play in a WC/EC (though it's obviously not a guarantee in recent times!)

BoyBrumby · 23-07-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

what makes you say we'd qualify?

Anyway, we were supposed to be playing in 2012 but the provinces don't want to get involved. Should just play the England side as GB IMO. I don't see why they are so arsed about losing international status anyway, it is the only chance most of them will ever get to play in a WC/EC (though it's obviously not a guarantee in recent times!)

Because we did. The European U21 championship doubles up as qualifying for the Olympics and as we got to the semis we'd have had one of the 4 spots.

IIRC Serbia & Italy (who finished third in their respective groups) played off for the final spot. Went to pens, but can't remember who actually won.

GIMH · 23-07-2008, 02:59 PM

Ah right I assumed they'd have separate qualifiers for the Olympics as it's an U23 comp IIRC. Shows the disregard for it here though

BoyBrumby · 23-07-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Ah right I assumed they'd have separate qualifiers for the Olympics as it's an U23 comp IIRC. Shows the disregard for it here though

The Under-21s is a bit of a misnomer, really. It's effectively under-23s, in practice. The tournaments run in two-year cycles (co-inciding with the qualifcation for world cups/european nations cups) & if a player is 21 or under in the first year of the cycle (we're obv just starting one again now) they're classed as eligible right up until the end of it, which will be 2010 when that player could be 23.

GIMH · 23-07-2008, 03:24 PM

Ah yeah, I did know that actually.Seem to remember friendlies in years gone by where players aged about 24 actually got a game, dunno if rules are different for friendlies or where different back then, or perhaps I am making it up, Jamie Redknapp springs to mind though

Craig · 24-07-2008, 01:33 AM

What is the big deal about as competing as Great Britian in the 1st place? I mean why not just compete as England, Scotland etc.?

Samuel_Vimes · 24-07-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig

What is the big deal about as competing as Great Britian in the 1st place? I mean why not just compete as England, Scotland etc.?

IOC won't allow it. Basically it'll be four teams representing one Olympic committee.

Goughy · 25-07-2008, 02:22 AM

There really are simple solutions.

Which ever of the Home Nations qualifies then they represent the GB team. If 2 nations qualify then there is a play off.

If no nation qualifies then GB doesnt send a team.

Craig · 25-07-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes

IOC won't allow it. Basically it'll be four teams representing one Olympic committee.

Then they each have one Olympic committee. Viable then?

GIMH · 26-07-2008, 04:14 PM

I'd be fine with it tbh but Athletics is one sport where we have always competed as GB and is usually the main focus of the Olympics. It will never happen

Jungle Jumbo · 26-07-2008, 04:32 PM

Olympic football has never made much sense to me really. For most sports, the Olympics represents something near the height of achievement - a gold in the 100m is probably worth more than a gold in the 100m in the world championships. Football has the World Cup. An U23 event which promiment players are often reluctant to participate in doesn't make much sense.

I also think it goes against the amateur spirit - these guys are being paid big bucks week in, week out, yet appear alongside those who get the only exposure of their careers at the Olympics. Doesn't work for me.

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speirz U19 Cricketer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 461	Care a bit about it, especially pissed with Seven's coverage here in Australia. Argentina as defending champs and with some of their selections should be favourites this time around.

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Ah right I assumed they'd have separate qualifiers for the Olympics as it's an U23 comp IIRC. Shows the disregard for it here though

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	Ah yeah, I did know that actually.Seem to remember friendlies in years gone by where players aged about 24 actually got a game, dunno if rules are different for friendlies or where different back then, or perhaps I am making it up, Jamie Redknapp springs to mind though

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,601	I'd be fine with it tbh but Athletics is one sport where we have always competed as GB and is usually the main focus of the Olympics. It will never happen

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Jungle Jumbo International Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 4,898	Olympic football has never made much sense to me really. For most sports, the Olympics represents something near the height of achievement - a gold in the 100m is probably worth more than a gold in the 100m in the world championships. Football has the World Cup. An U23 event which promiment players are often reluctant to participate in doesn't make much sense. I also think it goes against the amateur spirit - these guys are being paid big bucks week in, week out, yet appear alongside those who get the only exposure of their careers at the Olympics. Doesn't work for me.

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