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    Australia Votes - Election 2004 Thread

    A lot of people here (including myself) living in Australia are of voting age.
    I would love to hear people's views on the current fight for leadership of Australia between John Howard and Mark Latham.

    Who do you support, do you even care?

    Or are you going to do the famous 'donkey vote'?

    Discuss here people.
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    If an Aussie i go for Mark Lathem because Howard tried to Snub our Rugby Team

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    I dont want to hijack the thread, but have you ever noticed John wears the Wallabies tracksuit in winter, and the ACB Tracksuit in summer?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.hinton
    If an Aussie i go for Mark Lathem because Howard tried to Snub our Rugby Team
    But you unashamedly support every move George W. Bush makes, much like Howard? Interesting.

    Anyway, I'm in the same boat as Sangrah being a voter. At this stage, I don't have a firm incling one way or the other. I'm leaning towards Labor and Latham, simply for the reason that I don't agree with the way that Howard has jumped on the Bush bandwagon - he should have shown more backbone, or at least fudged some thinking time.

    That said, I'll be waiting for the policies to be firmly announced and analysed before committing one way or the other.


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    Beer and Fishing party for me...i hope to hell they are back again this time around.

    Of the two major parties i couldn't give a rats **** who gets in. One is as bad as the other (In their own ways).

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterblaster
    A lot of people here (including myself) living in Australia are of voting age.
    I would love to hear people's views on the current fight for leadership of Australia between John Howard and Mark Latham.

    Who do you support, do you even care?

    Or are you going to do the famous 'donkey vote'?

    Discuss here people.
    I haven't been in Aus for the past 2 and a half years, but will be returning right before the election (a day before actually! haha). I'm not returning because it's on though, that would be pathetic! It's kind of hard to keep a firm grasp on what's happening at home from abroad, and I've never been a big politics person in the first place. I'll more than likely be voting for Latham though, as I (along with a large majority of our population apparently) disagreed with us marching blindly to war at the Americans side. I think more time should have been devoted to summing up the pro's and con's before we joined in (if we joined at all) and don't like the fact that someone who is supposed to be representing us didn't listen in this instance.

    I am also very interested to see what impact Peter Garrett will have should Labor get in, I don't think he's quite the joke that some people think he is, and hope he doesn't tone down his former stance completely.

    No matter who gets in though I guess promises etc before the election will mean nothing again, it's one thing to make promises before you get in, but another one completely to get anything passed through parliament.

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    I'm voting Green for the first time in my life (I've always been an ALP voter). Howard never would have had my vote to lose, even if his government had been more "small L" Liberal, but I'm shocked by how little impact his shocking record of dishonesty and exploiting the worst tendencies of the Australian people is probably going to have on his election (in fact, I expect him to win, albeit with a marginally smaller majority).

    The reason I'm moving away from the Labor party is that they seem determined to move away from their union and workers' rights roots. While Latham is probably the best hope they have electorally right now (at least, until Julia Gillard is ready to put her hand up down the track), we're still seeing a blend of Liberal financial policy and a continuing fascination with over-privatisation and Labor is seriously in danger of losing the sense of who they are as a party. And some of their turnarounds on social policy in recent years has genuinely shocked me.

    Obviously Labor will be second on my preferences. The main priority is to remove Howard from office. So far, Latham's running a lousy campaign though.

    Of course, in some ways, Howard is potentially the calm before the storm. I'm not that worried about Costello, because I don't think he'll ever be elected to power, but Tony Abbott and his evangelical entourage scare the crap out of me. Please, let's not go nutso like America did in the 70's.
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    Howard all the way for me...

    Latham is nothing but a Liar, he is a loose cannon waiting to go off.. Howard has done heaps for the stability of this country... Interest rates are at record lows(for someone who is buying a house soon this is massive), Unemployment is at record lows and our economy is in better shape then it has been for YEARS!!

    Labour have had so many chances to step up and show what they can do but they always seem to stuff things up..
    Howard is the BEST man for the job.... he has a steady team, whereas most of Lathams bunch have been there tried that and failed... Simon Crean as Shadow Treasurer, a guy who ran the unions into the ground has stepped up to Counrty Level and if Labour get in it won't be long before we are back to where we were...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blewy
    Howard all the way for me...

    Latham is nothing but a Liar, he is a loose cannon waiting to go off.. Howard has done heaps for the stability of this country... Interest rates are at record lows(for someone who is buying a house soon this is massive), Unemployment is at record lows and our economy is in better shape then it has been for YEARS!!

    Labour have had so many chances to step up and show what they can do but they always seem to stuff things up..
    Howard is the BEST man for the job.... he has a steady team, whereas most of Lathams bunch have been there tried that and failed... Simon Crean as Shadow Treasurer, a guy who ran the unions into the ground has stepped up to Counrty Level and if Labour get in it won't be long before we are back to where we were...
    Agreed. Has to be Howard for me, if Labor get in there's going to be massive inflation like last time and it'll just ruin what the Howard Government has done to pull back the masive debt. Also I don't want some arrogant thug for our leader with Simon Crean as Shadow Trasurer. As for the Iraq thing, while it is quite big I'm not entirely decided on it. But I am decided on the fact that Australia NEED America!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blewy
    Howard all the way for me...

    Latham is nothing but a Liar, he is a loose cannon waiting to go off.. Howard has done heaps for the stability of this country... Interest rates are at record lows(for someone who is buying a house soon this is massive), Unemployment is at record lows and our economy is in better shape then it has been for YEARS!!

    Labour have had so many chances to step up and show what they can do but they always seem to stuff things up..
    Howard is the BEST man for the job.... he has a steady team, whereas most of Lathams bunch have been there tried that and failed... Simon Crean as Shadow Treasurer, a guy who ran the unions into the ground has stepped up to Counrty Level and if Labour get in it won't be long before we are back to where we were...
    haha, while Howard is the epitomy of honesty. I'd like to see Howard, Blair and Bush gone to be honest. Voting Howard back in just seems a bit like saying "you didn't listen to us, but hey that's ok go ahead and do whatever you want". But as I said, I haven't been in Oz for a while and haven't seen everything that is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.hinton
    If an Aussie i go for Mark Lathem because Howard tried to Snub our Rugby Team
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris.hinton
    If an Aussie i go for Mark Lathem because Howard tried to Snub our Rugby Team

    Worst. Reason. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Son Of Coco
    haha, while Howard is the epitomy of honesty. I'd like to see Howard, Blair and Bush gone to be honest. Voting Howard back in just seems a bit like saying "you didn't listen to us, but hey that's ok go ahead and do whatever you want". But as I said, I haven't been in Oz for a while and haven't seen everything that is happening.

    Yeah Howard may not be the most Honest bloke, but let me tell you Latham is my local member, and he couldn't lie straight in bed...

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