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    Quote Originally Posted by MW1304 View Post
    It's essentially a more rigid, formulaic approach to the typical three-act structure of most Western cinema. The inciting incident is often one of gaining/realising some kind of power; then the crisis point will involve a villain who provides a moral/philosophical opposition to the code of the superhero and/or some kind of personal failure; and the denouement will be overcoming that crisis, usually by defeating the villain.

    People love a story that follows this path, whether it's superhero or not, and whether they actually know it's happening or not. Superhero films tend to follow this structure in a particularly clear, definable way, which is part of the reason why people respond to them. It doesn't have to be exceptional, it just has to be executed effectively, which is why it can feel a little soulless.

    Then you have the notable IP, the potential for action on different scales, the supremely well-defined nature of some of these characters, the sheer money that's poured into it filtered through high-class actors and creative types and is it any wonder people lap these films up? It has definitely gotten to a point where the actual conversation about these films is too all-encompassing though. Marvel do not make deep films and I just can't get involved in discussing them on an individual level any more.

    Its a relative scale. And movies going deep does not mean they are good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    It's interesting that Howe loves them, because he's massively into cultural deconstruction too.
    What makes you say that?

    As for GOT, I reckon that while it might have started life has having a lot of deconstructive bits in it, it's pretty much straight fantasy now. So those of us with the Hobbiton holiday pictures (no laughing at the back) are probably still enjoying it for that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Its a relative scale. And movies going deep does not mean they are good.
    Sure but it's an issue when you make two or three films in the same universe every year. There needs to be something more than the formula. Don't get me wrong they've made plenty of perfectly fine films but there isn't much to say about them anymore.

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    Of course its escapist cinema, and perfectly fine is the best you can do there. I am definitely over the phase of my life when I wanted to see movies with depth, realism etc. FWIW, I believe any actor who ever plays a convincing superhero is by default putting in a better performance than any other actor in any role in any of these movies with "realism and depth".


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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    FWIW, I believe any actor who ever plays a convincing superhero is by default putting in a better performance than any other actor in any role in any of these movies with "realism and depth".
    Wait by default? Why?
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    Coz to be convincing in a role that no one can relate to is the hardest. You probably see tamil movies, look at how many lead actors try (and fail miserably) to play roles like Rajini. This is not by accident coz Rajini was hardly the first one to do such roles. It takes very real acting chops to pull off those roles. Its just forgotten coz its considered "uncool" and "uncultured" for someone to praise such performances.

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    I think it'd be fair to say that dramatic film actors are overly praised in comparison to blockbuster actors, but they tend to get a lot of recognition from fans and $$$ so who really cares. I don't think a lot of people can really offer a lot on their opinion of acting beyond whether they liked a person or not.

    So while I disagree on the earlier slightly trolling undermining of any analysis on superhero blockbusters being a waste of time, I definitely think that most of the public opinion on acting and whether it's "good" or not is pretty much worthless. Theres a **** load of phenomenal performances out there that don't get an iota of acknowledgement because of where the film was produced, the genre of the film or a host of other things. HB's arbitrary guide there is as good as pretty much anyones IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    I think it'd be fair to say that dramatic film actors are overly praised in comparison to blockbuster actors, but they tend to get a lot of recognition from fans and $$$ so who really cares. I don't think a lot of people can really offer a lot on their opinion of acting beyond whether they liked a person or not.

    So while I disagree on the earlier slightly trolling undermining of any analysis on superhero blockbusters being a waste of time, I definitely think that most of the public opinion on acting and whether it's "good" or not is pretty much worthless. Theres a **** load of phenomenal performances out there that don't get an iota of acknowledgement because of where the film was produced, the genre of the film or a host of other things. HB's arbitrary guide there is as good as pretty much anyones IMO.
    Sure, I'm just balking at:

    I believe any actor who ever plays a convincing superhero is by default putting in a better performance than any other actor in any role in any of these movies with "realism and depth"
    That is taking what you said to an absurd extreme.

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    I mean... yeah... but HB is a standup guy and everyone should get the occasional pass on a random opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uppercut View Post
    Rise-fall-redemption is just an incredibly powerful formula. It clicks with the human brain in the same way that verse-chorus-verse-chorus-breakdown-chorus clicks. Getting people to pay 8 to see predictable shite is at the lower end of its power. Like Vimes alludes to it's basically the entire basis of Christianity. Countries pretty frequently go to war because the population envisage themselves between fall and redemption.
    I think people watch these movies because they're just big kids who dont want to grow up and deal with real life
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    I think people watch these movies because they're just big kids who dont want to grow up and deal with real life
    Well... Yes. People watch action-adventure movies to get away from real life. Phenomenal insight there, zorax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Well... Yes. People watch action-adventure movies to get away from real life. Phenomenal insight there, zorax.
    you're ignoring the 'big kids' part

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    Everyone definitely does seem to be having a problem with ignoring the big kid part eh?
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