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    Cycling is the answer if you want less impact on your joints. Just avoid cars etc otherwise the impact thing doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    Not my first time running down that route, but been ages since I last did it. zzzz. Should look for better shoes #SlaveToBigShoe
    i hear the ones with logos on them make you run faster
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    My own anecdotal experience at 36;

    I never stretch before or after exercise, have never so much as twinged a muscle (first cricket training after winter, I'm stiff for days but I'd argue pace bowling puts unique stresses on the body. Thereafter, no stiffness or soreness at all). Ride every day and have done so for, largely, the last 20 years, run every other day 10Km+, always played sports (athletics, cricket, ball sports, martial arts, bit of rugby but not too much contact sport)

    Only joint pain comes from if I haven't run in a few weeks. Thereafter, mainly blisters to manage.

    Definitely prefer to feel the road when running so don't use the air/padded shoes. Primary concern when buying shoes is, honestly, whether they'll last and the padded shoes, in my experience, fall to bits too quickly. Tennis shoes the most durable (think about the stresses tennis players put on their feet) so used to use them for cricket but I have been trying lighter shoes for a while, as long as they don't affect my gait. Any good running shop will film you on a treadmill and help you decide. Most shoes I buy are in the $100 or less range. Had shin problems at one point but $30 chemist shop orthotics fixed it almost immediately.

    I'm a fan of the idea that one does gird your body for the activity you do. I know Muai Thai guys smash their limbs on hard surfaces and the adaptation gets explained (very simplistically) in terms of Wollf's Law but one should always be sceptical, particularly since recent research is hard to come by. Detailed stuff is aging, such as this article from 2004 but not much in relation to sports other than this from last year which, despite the authors claiming no funding or sponsorship, the big logo in the top right corner on page 1 has me wondering. Just to be clear, Wolff's Law as a general 'external loading increases bone density' principle isn't in dispute but how/why/how much/under what circumstances doesn't seem to get much of a look. Some evidence supports that bone mass is added when the body is put under load but disappears rapidly once you stop the exercise. I personally feel stronger/less pain the more running I do but eh, it's open.
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    I've definitely noticed the toughness/pain tolerance thing with cricket and muay thai. If you get into the habit of playing both, then stop for a while, the next time you resume the ball/heavy bags always hurt more than you remember it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Do you wear a red cap when you go running?
    Well I do it all for the nookie.

    I do think if its available to you, running on sand is the best. It forces you to put all the pressure on your toes, improving your arches while not risking your achilles and knees. A friend is an ankle specialist and highly recommend against running on pavement.
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    Should also mention I had a knee arthroscopy 6 years ago but it was not running-related (twisting, sport, knee wrench, cartelage tear). Ortho surgeon, a big fan of bare/forefoot running told me to do the usual recovery (6 weeks, RICE, etc.) then to get back into it. Have had no issue ever since with distance running, sprinting or any physical activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotSpin View Post
    Well I do it all for the nookie.

    I do think if its available to you, running on sand is the best. It forces you to put all the pressure on your toes, improving your arches while not risking your achilles and knees. A friend is an ankle specialist and highly recommend against running on pavement.
    Some of us don't live at the beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Should also mention I had a knee arthroscopy 6 years ago but it was not running-related (twisting, sport, knee wrench, cartelage tear). Ortho surgeon, a big fan of bare/forefoot running told me to do the usual recovery (6 weeks, RICE, etc.) then to get back into it. Have had no issue ever since with distance running, sprinting or any physical activity.
    Yeah I had an arthroscopy and an ACL reconstruction done on the same knee in the space of 2 years and I've never been warned off running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furball View Post
    Some of us don't live at the beach.
    How on earth do you find the shops then?
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    Did around 6.8 km in 46 minutes today, I think my longest jog at a stretch.
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    First run after injury, pace was appalling. Long road back to my peak.

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    Been getting a bit sore after running (it's called age) so have started cycling.

    Good mate who is really keen amateur took me to a specialist bike shop yesterday as I want to upgrade from the piece of junk that I have at present

    FMD, if I'm going to spend 5k on a bike, it had better come with an engine and an hot babe on the back

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    Entered a 5km fun run today. Pretty happy with my time 20:37. About 8 weeks into my first soccer pre-season in 5 years so its nice to see the hard work paying off.

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    Going back to the barefoot running discussion, we do put horses on shoes, for the record. Can't really get behind the notion that protecting your feet from wear and tear was invented by Nike.

    Like with most things fitness related I think the truth is somewhere relatively close to the middle of the extreme perspectives people argue for. Stretching is fine, it works to ease you into activity and helps with general flexibility and preventing muscle tightness (which is a real thing), but if you don't stretch you won't immediately injure yourself. Shoes are good and helpful, running barefoot also works if you want to do that, but running at all will cause more wear and tear than not running. Yoga is perfectly fine for relaxation and light exercise and certainly excellent for mobility and flexibility, but it won't lead you to enlightenment. And so on.

    Another way to think about it is to look at what successful athletes advised by well educated doctors and trainers do. You'll notice that professional athletes tend to stretch, get massages, do both active recovery and ice baths and so on, and wear shoes, because that stuff all helps. It's also not magic and isn't an absolute necessity for casual people.
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    yeah exactly, it reeks of the same stench the barefoot brigade bring to horses.

    if your horse is on a hard surface, put shoes on it. if you are on a hard surface, put shoes on.
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