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    Cannot believe that some people still judge someone by their sexual preference

    Just watching the Thorpe interview and it's ridiculous that people in the western world are made to feel ashamed of their sexual preferences in 2014

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    Sadly I think most people do, and even those that don't tend to think along "more hot totty for the rest of us" lines, which isn't really any better

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    Who cares, no shock anyway after years of rumours. Does it matter either way?

    Still a great sportsman, does his sexual preference mean he is less of a great sportsman? Not in my eyes.

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    This is Ian Thorpe, right?

    It's always been pretty obvious which side his bread was buttered on.

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    Just hope he can find some peace now and can live a life that isn't on global display.
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    It is of course terrible that people are made to feel ashamed of their sexuality, but it's hardly surprising they do when making a related announcement is treated as news and put on the front page of every newspaper and website in the Western world.

    I'd probably feel uncomfortable about going to the corner shop every day to buy a bottle of milk if it was treated like an event of significant importance by every media outlet going.

    As Brumby astutely put it: great athlete, top chap, but this isn't a story.

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    Saw a similar line of argument on facebook about it not being newsworthy and the media making a big deal of it and this was what I posted

    Depends. Despite nearly everyone paying lip service to equality in public, a lot of people are quietly homophobic and will turn their noses up at or make crap jokes about people like Thorpe. It's not really the media at fault here but people in general.

    If Thorpe coming out with his story helps some kid see he or she is normal and is another nail in the coffin for the homophobes, then this is a good thing.

    I think you're right in that people are far too interested in who is banging who and with what bits, especially if they might be used in a gay way, but our society isn't in a place yet where the good guys can treat someone coming out as a non-event because there are still plenty of douchebags out there waiting to tear someone down in the name of God or cooties or being a dick.
    Being gay is still a thing and it still has a stigma, not because of the media but because of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Being gay is still a thing and it still has a stigma, not because of the media but because of people.
    This is not a useful distinction though. The media is not this thing that exists out there in the ether, independent of human input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    This is not a useful distinction though. The media is not this thing that exists out there in the ether, independent of human input.
    This is true but that surley that backs up the point that is being made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    It is of course terrible that people are made to feel ashamed of their sexuality, but it's hardly surprising they do when making a related announcement is treated as news and put on the front page of every newspaper and website in the Western world.

    I'd probably feel uncomfortable about going to the corner shop every day to buy a bottle of milk if it was treated like an event of significant importance by every media outlet going.
    im pretty sure this isnt why LBGT keep it hidden inside
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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    This is not a useful distinction though. The media is not this thing that exists out there in the ether, independent of human input.
    You're right, and that's my point. They report what people are interested in or what they think people should be interested in.

    Whether they're doing this for good reasons or to be ****s is open to interpretation and will vary depending on the leanings of the media outlet.

    Considering his widely publicised struggles with denial, and that he decided to come out on a talk show, I don't see an issue with the media picking the story up. Their angle is a different matter.

    Ideally this wouldn't be news but it is, and it's news because enough people are interested.
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    you guys might be shocked to learn this, but not a lot of australian male sporting legends are openly gay. so if you are a young male athlete who is gay this is probably interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Ideally this wouldn't be news but it is, and it's news because enough people are interested.
    Yeah, this is fair enough. It's the fact that people are interested in this sort of thing that I was complaining about really.

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    Tom Ballard (Aussie comedian/former Triple J radio host who's gay) wrote this article today that is incredibly relevant to this conversation.

    For those who've heard this news and shrug and casually asks "who cares?", I'd simply answer "15-year-old closeted me". Scared, little, questioning Tom Ballard would have cared a lot if nine years ago he'd seen swimming champion and national treasure Ian Thorpe on the news, proudly identifying as a successful sportsman and a bloke who liked blokes.

    And I'm sure there will be thousands of questioning kids tuning in to the interview who will care just as much and who might find themselves a new gay role model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    you guys might be shocked to learn this, but not a lot of australian male sporting legends are openly gay. so if you are a young male athlete who is gay this is probably interesting
    Ian Roberts '95 should have put an end to it

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