At the current point in time the legalise movement has everything going for it. You only have to walk around the centre of Hamilton to see the damage that synthetics have done. Natural marijuana is so preferable to the artificial stuff that its not funny and unless the politicians get their **** into gear, the only way that we are going to get rid of legals is to make the natural stuff legal.
Also, who on earth smokes an entire joint by themselves?
Last edited by wellAlbidarned; 24-04-2014 at 03:13 AM.
Exit pursuing a beerOriginally Posted by Jimmy Neesham
Albi hitting the nail on the head there.
i hate the rubbish and have no idea why anyone would want to touch it let alone implicitly encourage it by legalising it but legalise it imo. people are allowed to wreck themselves with booze and ciggies. weed is no different.
Alcohol is a far superior drug to Marijuana.. In moderation there are even some health benefits to drinking.
And I don't like ONIY's logic that it is the lesser of two evils.
Peter Dunne was on Campbell live today and he said "You only have to take a trip to your local psch ward / hospital to see the damage pot can do. We won't be legalising it soon".
The only argument in favour of bud is that it is basically non addictive unless you go stupid on it and have it every day.
Nah, I don't agree with you, Hurricane.
Alcohol leads to drunken violence, drink driving, alcoholism etc etc
New Zealand's "drinking culture"
Marijuana leads to cottonmouth, munchies, sunshine, and lollipops.
Regarding the Dunne quote, you don't even need to visit a hospital to see what damage alcohol can do.
As far as cancer is concerned, I actually believe the most popular form of the drug sold in Colorado is in edible goods. This is because it's still illegal to smoke it in public places.
An interesting legal twist is that even though marijuana is legal under Colorado state law, it's still illegal under US federal law, so technically the federal authorities could still arrest someone in Colorado for marijuana possession, manufacture or sale, but the US Justice Department has said it won't challenge Colorado or other states with laws legalizing recreational marijuana.
Last edited by BeeGee; 24-04-2014 at 01:04 PM.
First, The 'study' you're citing states that one joint = 20 cigarettes, not 30. I might be appearing pedantic but 50% more is quite a lot.
Secondly, the study is a complete farce, as a) it has a sample size of 79 people b) the results was derived from purely anecdotal evidence not actual scientific data. Quoting from the study:
Such precise conclusions are meaningless from that lolsample size and interviews IMO.For the study, researchers interviewed 79 lung cancer patients in an effort identify the main risk factors for the disease, such as smoking, family history and occupation. The patients were questioned about alcohol and marijuana consumption.
In the high-exposure group, lung cancer risk rose by 5.7 times for patients who smoked more than a joint a day for 10 years, or two joints a day for 5 years, after adjusting for other variables, including cigarette smoking.
Smoking a single marijuana joint is equivalent to smoking 2.5 to 5 cigarettes in terms of damage to the lungs, largely due to differences in how pot and cigarette users smoke.
The Guardian reported July 31 that researchers at the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand found that the deep drags taken by marijuana users, along with their penchant for holding smoke in before exhaling, can cause problems like obstructed airways and hyperinflation of the lungs. The lack of filters on marijuana joints also contributes to lung problems, researchers said.
The study involved 339 adult volunteers divided into four groups: marijuana-only smokers, tobacco-only smokers, marijuana and tobacco smokers, and nonsmokers.
All of the smokers reported coughing and wheezing, but only tobacco smokers exhibited signs of emphysema.
Also the effects of pot are insidious. If you smoke up more than once a month you will lose your ambition. Now maybe ambition doesn't sound like an important thing, but to parents (I am not a parent) of some 21 year old who is living in their basement and content with his 3 day a week job at the corner store you are probably very concerned about it.
If you sense uptightness in my posts it is there for two reasons. I have known people who have lost all ambition and they were my friends. Secondly I get "offered it/thrust upon me" once every couple of months. I have no problem with people dabbling with it in their 20s to check it out and I certainly did. But I have issues with people doing it long term. I think it does harm other people and tax payers by creating costs for our health system and our economy. If there is every a referendum on legalising it I will be voting against it. Also remember when reading my posts I am an old **** if I was in my 20s and still dabbling then I would be all in favour of it no doubt.
Edit - I also don't see the need to legalise it as it is a piece of cake to acquire some and use. And it is affordable. So future teenagers will not be deprived of the traditional pot experience.
Last edited by Hurricane; 25-04-2014 at 01:41 AM.
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