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    So let's say he takes the 5th but coppers coerce, bully, etc. him into either revoking his taking of the 5th or convince him he's not incriminating himself (when he is) so he talks. What then? And, come trial, let's say he claims he was bullied, who do you reckon the jury's likely to believe? I mean, it's all too easy for that lawyer in the video you posted to say 'Don't say anything!' when he's not the one under the pump and/or blame the person under questioning for getting themselves in the ****. In real life, not everyone knows their rights and nor should they be brutalised for not invoking them if they didn't fully understand the extent or subtleties of them beforehand let alone in an interrogation. Not to mention, it potentially gives the defenders a lot more to work with come trial.

    Have to be careful and it's not as simple as 'you didn't invoke your legal rights, sucks to be you' when you're dealing with real people. That's a **** way to protect or prosecute people. Yeah in an ideal world, everyone would know and understand their rights but it's not always the case and people, even this ****, need to be protected from abuse of that. Not least of all because it's more likely to result in the right outcome anyway.
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    I am not sure how your scenario is relevant to mirandizing someone.

    Your scenario applies whether they mirandize him, he invokes his miranda rights, and then they coerce him into answering questions, vs. if they don't mirandize him, he invokes his miranda rights, and they then coerce him into answering questions...


    I am not a laywer, but I am fairly certain that if you invoke your right to a fifth amendment and ask for a lawyer, they cannot ask you anymore questions until they get you a lawyer. If they do, any statements would be thrown out in court anyway.
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    Its weird that you are debating about mirandizing someone who is obviously dead.

    Oh wait, he's not dead. You suck SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Its weird that you are debating about mirandizing someone who is obviously dead.

    Oh wait, he's not dead. You suck SS.
    Not quite sure what this means. Someone reported he was dead, then I saw that a newschannel on TV was saying that he was found with blood all over and dead. Then I said it makes sense (how many cop killers are taken alive, let alone this situation?), and I was shocked that he was indeed taken alive.

    You're acting like I made up the story that he died...


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    You need two sources SS:


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Not quite sure what this means.
    It means I'm taking the piss ya bum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    You need two sources SS:

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    It means I'm taking the piss ya bum.
    Haha, I hate watch that show so much.....

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