Anti-vaxxers - Page 2

Redbacks · 05-12-2012, 06:28 AM

Current Affairs programs must surely be part of the problem. They are happy to run any claim if they think it will be a ratings hit. As per Frontline, what sells:

'A story no parent can afford to miss'

Spikey · 05-12-2012, 06:33 AM

i really can't believe these people exist and i'm glad to be reading so much backlash

LongHopCassidy · 06-12-2012, 12:28 PM

Michelle Bachmann weighs in.

Top_Cat · 06-12-2012, 02:46 PM

heh, yeah I remember that. What a l00n.

Top_Cat · 08-01-2013, 08:17 PM

Deadly disease a 'good thing' for kids, author claims | News.com.au

BoyBrumby · 09-01-2013, 12:23 AM

You literally couldn't make it up.

Except someone has.

Makes me think of a Dara O'Briain bit where he goes on about the ante natal class his wife and he went to when she was expecting. Well obviously it'd be very weird if she wasn't pregnant and they were going, but I digress.

The earth mother, touchy feely type who was taking it said of the potential splitting of the perineum that often occurs in childbirth and said "Some doctors now think the natural tearing is better than it being cut"

Dara asks his wife (who's a surgeon, but who had made him promise not to mention this to anyone in the class) afterwards if that was possibly right and she replies "Of course it ****ing isn't. It's why I use a scalpel and not get a bear to make the incision."

silentstriker · 09-01-2013, 12:52 AM

A huge number of women died every year giving birth - it wasn't safe at all before the 20th century....

Not to mention the # of people died from diseases we vaccinate for now. I guess when you don't know anyone personally who suffered from polio, it's very easy to dismiss.

andyc · 09-01-2013, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silentstriker

Not to mention the # of people died from diseases we vaccinate for now. I guess when you don't know anyone personally who suffered from polio, it's very easy to dismiss.

That's what does it for me, the completely misguided idea that it 'won't happen to me.' I daresay it's a similar reason why the woman in the article TC posted thinks doctors are lying about her kid dying from a genetic disease. It couldn't possibly be something to do with me.

GingerFurball · 09-01-2013, 07:01 AM

In fairness, a genetic illness must be a mind**** for a parent.

silentstriker · 09-01-2013, 08:47 AM

Yea, absolutely. It's extremely difficult.

Another thing about vaccination is that it's a 'positive' thing you must do. If you've never seen polio, it's very abstract in your mind. But you have to choose to vaccinate your kid - and if someone tells you that doing it will cause your kid to develop autism, that's a situation that most parents would do anything to avoid. If you vaccinate and then your kid is diagnosed with autism (not that they are related in the slightest, but the general public doesn't know that), I'd bet you'd be wracked with a tremendous amount of guilt for having 'caused' the disease.

That's why I blame the peddlers much more than the parents. Look, the fact is not everyone is scientifically literate, and even the vast majority of very literate people can't really analyze the statistics and read primary scientific literature. So they have to rely on 'expert' advice, and if some guy in a white coat with a PhD or a MD or something comes on and tells them something, they're going to listen. Those are almost always the most trusted professions in society, for valid reasons.

Oddly enough, vaccines are easier to spread in developing countries (most of them), mainly because many of those people still remember what it was like to have those diseases. But then again, a different sort of misinformation can spread (like the myth that said the polio vaccine was a conspiracy by the US to make men sterile).

Top_Cat · 11-05-2013, 07:44 AM

Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story | Collective-Evolution

Dammit Italy.

Uppercut · 11-05-2013, 07:58 AM

No surprises there. Italy's judiciary is a disgrace to the continent.

Howe_zat · 11-05-2013, 08:12 AM

Good lord

I can't even get my head around how that happens. How does something based entirely on discredited science and media hype even manage to cross the language barrier?

sledger · 11-05-2013, 08:27 AM

I suspect Brian Cox is to blame for this, somehow.

Flem274* · 11-05-2013, 04:04 PM

They also sent a bunch of seismologists to jail for not predicting an earthquake, so maybe this shouldn't be surprising.

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BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,645	You literally couldn't make it up. Except someone has. Makes me think of a Dara O'Briain bit where he goes on about the ante natal class his wife and he went to when she was expecting. Well obviously it'd be very weird if she wasn't pregnant and they were going, but I digress. The earth mother, touchy feely type who was taking it said of the potential splitting of the perineum that often occurs in childbirth and said "Some doctors now think the natural tearing is better than it being cut" Dara asks his wife (who's a surgeon, but who had made him promise not to mention this to anyone in the class) afterwards if that was possibly right and she replies "Of course it **ing isn't. It's why I use a scalpel and not get a bear to make the incision." __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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05-12-2012, 06:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
Redbacks International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Barrow Island, WA Posts: 4,063	Current Affairs programs must surely be part of the problem. They are happy to run any claim if they think it will be a ratings hit. As per Frontline, what sells: 'A story no parent can afford to miss'

08-01-2013, 08:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,191	Deadly disease a 'good thing' for kids, author claims \| News.com.au

09-01-2013, 08:47 AM	#25 (permalink)
silentstriker The Wheel is Forever Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 36,538	Yea, absolutely. It's extremely difficult. Another thing about vaccination is that it's a 'positive' thing you must do. If you've never seen polio, it's very abstract in your mind. But you have to choose to vaccinate your kid - and if someone tells you that doing it will cause your kid to develop autism, that's a situation that most parents would do anything to avoid. If you vaccinate and then your kid is diagnosed with autism (not that they are related in the slightest, but the general public doesn't know that), I'd bet you'd be wracked with a tremendous amount of guilt for having 'caused' the disease. That's why I blame the peddlers much more than the parents. Look, the fact is not everyone is scientifically literate, and even the vast majority of very literate people can't really analyze the statistics and read primary scientific literature. So they have to rely on 'expert' advice, and if some guy in a white coat with a PhD or a MD or something comes on and tells them something, they're going to listen. Those are almost always the most trusted professions in society, for valid reasons. Oddly enough, vaccines are easier to spread in developing countries (most of them), mainly because many of those people still remember what it was like to have those diseases. But then again, a different sort of misinformation can spread (like the myth that said the polio vaccine was a conspiracy by the US to make men sterile).

11-05-2013, 07:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,191	Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story \| Collective-Evolution Dammit Italy.

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sledger Spanish_Vicente Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: cricsim, lol Posts: 28,148	I suspect Brian Cox is to blame for this, somehow.

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