Imran detained in Canada by American Immigration? - Page 2

Faisal1985 · 27-10-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

He was on a flight to New York though; it stopped off in Canada. The USA have every right to question him before he arrives in their country given that was clearly his destination. If he was just going to Canada it'd be a bit different.

True I just learned that and it makes more sense now...

Faisal1985 · 27-10-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Well, Imran said it was about the drones. And of course he would. I don't doubt that his attitude towards the drones was questioned as well to get a better insight into the man, but the rationale behind questioning him in the first place probably had more to do with these comments or these comments, or possibly these comments. As I said in the Pakistan Politics thread, the first article I linked looks like really lazy and vindictive journalism to me, but well that's why you question the man rather than taking stuff like that at face value. The Americans involved wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't at least look into stuff like that, and if asking Imran a few questions about it in Canada before he arrives in the US is how they feel they can get a better idea about what his views actually are, then so be it.

Would have made more sense to question him right when boarding a U.S. bound flight in Pakistan. Once he is on Canadian Soil he is pretty much "here" and any threat of a "pro Taliban" speech or whatever reason U.S. thought was important enough to question him is that much closer now.

Prince EWS · 27-10-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Faisal1985

Would have made more sense to question him right when boarding a U.S. bound flight in Pakistan.

Probs too scared.

smalishah84 · 27-10-2012, 11:22 PM

WAC

smalishah84 · 27-10-2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince EWS

He was on a flight to New York though; it stopped off in Canada. The USA have every right to question him before he arrives in their country given that was clearly his destination. If he was just going to Canada it'd be a bit different.

Well, Imran said it was about the drones. And of course he would. I don't doubt that his attitude towards the drones was questioned as well to get a better insight into the man, but the rationale behind questioning him in the first place probably had more to do with these comments or these comments, or possibly these comments. As I said in the Pakistan Politics thread, the first article I linked looks like really lazy and vindictive journalism to me, but well that's why you question the man rather than taking stuff like that at face value. The Americans involved wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't at least look into stuff like that, and if asking Imran a few questions about it in Canada before he arrives in the US is how they feel they can get a better idea about what his views actually are, then so be it.

But Imran is a very public personality and if they need an hour to sit with him to gauge his views which have already been made public by him umpteen number of times don't you think it is a little lazy on their part to not have done thorough research on him before hauling him off the flight?

Prince EWS · 27-10-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smalishah84

But Imran is a very public personality and if they need an hour to sit with him to gauge his views which have already been made public by him umpteen number of times don't you think it is a little lazy on their part to not have done thorough research on him before hauling him off the flight?

As we both know, the Pakistani media is notoriously unreliable; using it as a verified source when determining whether someone is a threat or not would be an awful idea. The first article I linked there is IMO a perfect example of why having a chat to him would be a good idea. It depicts something that I'm not sure Imran actually meant, and there are no quotes to really support what the article is saying.

smalishah84 · 27-10-2012, 11:46 PM

yes but Imran has come a lot on media and just the other day he again clarified his stance on canadian TV

IMRAN KHAN Latest Interview to Canadian TV CBC

smalishah84 · 27-10-2012, 11:47 PM

the anchor could be irritating at times especially asking a fair few times "Imran are you saying that the canadian lives that were lost in Afghanistan were wasted" or something of the sort

silentstriker · 28-10-2012, 01:14 AM

He was asked about it, and let go. I don't see the problem? Hell, I was 'asked about' all sorts of random things by UK immigration even though I had a US passport and was visiting for two days. It was more hilarious than annoying, in retrospect.

Fusion · 28-10-2012, 03:16 AM

1) Anyone visiting the US is doing so voluntarily. As such, they are agreeing to abide by the immigration laws of the US. If the US, wants to question someone who has made fairly inflammatory statements against the country, they have a perfect right to do so.

2) Once the immigration officials questioned him, they did allow him to enter the country. Yes he missed his original flight, but Imran wasn't barred from entering the States.

3) If Imran feels aggrieved/insulted, he is perfectly within his rights to never visit the US again. Of course that means he'd never be able to fund raise in the States, but hey, it's all about the principled stand more than the money right?

smalishah84 · 28-10-2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

3) If Imran feels aggrieved/insulted, he is perfectly within his rights to never visit the US again. Of course that means he'd never be able to fund raise in the States, but hey, it's all about the principled stand more than the money right?

Such a wrong statement

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Funds can also be raised online (even if the amount raised might be lower).

http://www.insaf.pk/Support/Donate/t...9/Default.aspx

Fusion · 28-10-2012, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by smalishah84

Such a wrong statement

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Funds can also be raised online (even if the amount raised might be lower).

Donate

All the more reason to take a principled stand against this gross insult and never visit the US again.

P.S: If the US were so inclined, they could easily ban all fund raising activities in the country for Imran/PTI, including online.

smalishah84 · 28-10-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fusion

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P.S: If the US were so inclined, they could easily ban all fund raising activities in the country for Imran/PTI, including online.

so?

GIMH · 28-10-2012, 04:12 AM

They should have thrown away the key.

smalishah84 · 28-10-2012, 04:23 AM

Wac

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smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,856	yes but Imran has come a lot on media and just the other day he again clarified his stance on canadian TV IMRAN KHAN Latest Interview to Canadian TV CBC

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smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,856	the anchor could be irritating at times especially asking a fair few times "Imran are you saying that the canadian lives that were lost in Afghanistan were wasted" or something of the sort

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Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,770	1) Anyone visiting the US is doing so voluntarily. As such, they are agreeing to abide by the immigration laws of the US. If the US, wants to question someone who has made fairly inflammatory statements against the country, they have a perfect right to do so. 2) Once the immigration officials questioned him, they did allow him to enter the country. Yes he missed his original flight, but Imran wasn't barred from entering the States. 3) If Imran feels aggrieved/insulted, he is perfectly within his rights to never visit the US again. Of course that means he'd never be able to fund raise in the States, but hey, it's all about the principled stand more than the money right?

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