Mass Shooting Incidents in the United States - Page 5

Top_Cat · 23-07-2012, 11:10 PM

Take away our guns?! But what if the English bomb Pearl Harbour again!

silentstriker · 23-07-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

They definitely are right here though. Its not a coincidence that the US has more shootings than other countries with comparable populations but tougher gun laws.

Its a no brainer, but many Americans are just absolutely crazy on this issue.

Well clearly I think most sane people agree (though plenty of people don't) that shootings would go down if guns were illegal - I just think many people are willing to accept the higher level of overall violence if they can own a firearm though.

Burgey · 24-07-2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

Well clearly I think most sane people agree (though plenty of people don't) that shootings would go down if guns were illegal - I just think many people are willing to accept the higher level of overall violence if they can own a firearm though.

But why?

Spikey · 24-07-2012, 03:00 AM

because the world is a safer place if everyone has a gun. that is, everyone except me

BoyBrumby · 24-07-2012, 03:14 AM

What I never get is how other countries take these pieces of **** alive. Here in the sleepy UK with our strict gun laws and poor dentition we never take spree killers any other way than doornail-like.

I'm not saying it's official policy, but they do "turn their guns on themselves" with a regularity that borders on ubiquity.

silentstriker · 24-07-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

But why?

In my opinion - a multitude of historical and cultural factors. First, there are large number of people who hunt and have owned and used guns for generations - a large percentage of US households have guns. Second, I think there is a bit of an 'independant' streak in many people, and considering the size of the country, they have always been more or less 'on their own' - so they resent the government telling them to get rid of something they've always owned. Third, people treat the constitution with something of a reverence, meaning, if its in the constitution, it must be good and essential forever.

Spikey · 24-07-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyBrumby

What I never get is how other countries take these pieces of **** alive. Here in the sleepy UK with our strict gun laws and poor dentition we never take spree killers any other way than doornail-like.

I'm not saying it's official policy, but they do "turn their guns on themselves" with a regularity that borders on ubiquity.

In this case it's probably pretty good they didn't kill him, given the whole bomb set-up in his home thing

BoyBrumby · 24-07-2012, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Spikey

In this case it's probably pretty good they didn't kill him, given the whole bomb set-up in his home thing

One might hope that the authorities would've had more about them than just kicking the door down.

I know "Americans " & "police" aren't two groups renowned for their intellectual rigour, but come on...

Top_Cat · 24-07-2012, 04:41 AM

The epi studies on the matter put the US absolutely out on its own as far as the rise in civilisation and democracy without an attendant dramatic drop in non-gang gun violence. The very friendly legal framework and total lack of political will to change it is basically the reason why the situation hasn't changed and won't change for the forseeable future. If anything, the past 10 years have been a boon for the gun rights types.

benchmark00 · 24-07-2012, 07:23 AM

_Ed_ · 24-07-2012, 07:25 AM

Aurora & Gun Control - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 07/23/12 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

vic_orthdox · 24-07-2012, 07:34 AM

So sick of the Daily Show not being available online in Australia.

Cevno · 05-08-2012, 11:51 AM

There has been another mass shooting in the U.S.A.

This time in a Gurudwara (Sikh temple).

benchmark00 · 05-08-2012, 12:24 PM

Source?

smalishah84 · 05-08-2012, 01:06 PM

Gunman, six others dead at Wisconsin Sikh temple - CNN.com

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