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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    They definitely are right here though. Its not a coincidence that the US has more shootings than other countries with comparable populations but tougher gun laws.

    Its a no brainer, but many Americans are just absolutely crazy on this issue.
    Well clearly I think most sane people agree (though plenty of people don't) that shootings would go down if guns were illegal - I just think many people are willing to accept the higher level of overall violence if they can own a firearm though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Well clearly I think most sane people agree (though plenty of people don't) that shootings would go down if guns were illegal - I just think many people are willing to accept the higher level of overall violence if they can own a firearm though.
    But why?
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    What I never get is how other countries take these pieces of **** alive. Here in the sleepy UK with our strict gun laws and poor dentition we never take spree killers any other way than doornail-like.

    I'm not saying it's official policy, but they do "turn their guns on themselves" with a regularity that borders on ubiquity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    But why?
    In my opinion - a multitude of historical and cultural factors. First, there are large number of people who hunt and have owned and used guns for generations - a large percentage of US households have guns. Second, I think there is a bit of an 'independant' streak in many people, and considering the size of the country, they have always been more or less 'on their own' - so they resent the government telling them to get rid of something they've always owned. Third, people treat the constitution with something of a reverence, meaning, if its in the constitution, it must be good and essential forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    What I never get is how other countries take these pieces of **** alive. Here in the sleepy UK with our strict gun laws and poor dentition we never take spree killers any other way than doornail-like.

    I'm not saying it's official policy, but they do "turn their guns on themselves" with a regularity that borders on ubiquity.
    In this case it's probably pretty good they didn't kill him, given the whole bomb set-up in his home thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    In this case it's probably pretty good they didn't kill him, given the whole bomb set-up in his home thing
    One might hope that the authorities would've had more about them than just kicking the door down.

    I know "Americans " & "police" aren't two groups renowned for their intellectual rigour, but come on...

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    The epi studies on the matter put the US absolutely out on its own as far as the rise in civilisation and democracy without an attendant dramatic drop in non-gang gun violence. The very friendly legal framework and total lack of political will to change it is basically the reason why the situation hasn't changed and won't change for the forseeable future. If anything, the past 10 years have been a boon for the gun rights types.
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    There has been another mass shooting in the U.S.A.

    This time in a Gurudwara (Sikh temple).

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