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Spark · 05-10-2012, 06:08 AM

Virgin Australia 737-800 lost by air traffic control for 30 minutes | Plane Talking

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Last Friday morning a Virgin Australia 737-800 with 168 seats left Sydney for Brisbane.

Somewhere near Newcastle or perhaps a but further up the track, after the controller responsible for its departure from Sydney had handed over the flight to the officer responsible for most of its cruise north toward Brisbane, the flight was ‘lost.’

<snip>

It flew at high speed and high altitude through the busiest airspace in Australian skies, between Melbourne-Sydney-Brisbane, without anyone in air traffic control, or any of the many jets of varying sizes that would have been under control in the space it was using, having any knowledge of its presence.

The first anyone knew that there was an invisible passenger jet flying toward Brisbane was when a Virgin Australia pilot called traffic control at a point where he or she would have normally expected to hear from the ATC system prior to entering the airspace nearer its destination.

What in the actual ****...?

Top_Cat · 09-10-2012, 10:42 PM

Darwin ATC sent two Qantas jets on collision course | Plane Talking

A near mid-air, this one in Darwin by RAAF ATC. They don't mention it in this article but I'm led to believe there was around 800' vertical separation between the planes. In other words, SFA.

uvelocity · 10-10-2012, 05:59 PM

jumped out of a plane yesterday. was quite safe.

Top_Cat · 10-10-2012, 06:09 PM

WHY DID YOU JUMP OUT OF IT THEN.

Crazy ****.

Top_Cat · 11-10-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark

Virgin Australia 737-800 lost by air traffic control for 30 minutes | Plane Talking

What in the actual ****...?

Updated.

Airservices 'lost Virgin jet' screen grab unmasks its lies | Plane Talking

Top_Cat · 17-10-2012, 04:18 PM

Operations & safety editor David Learmount assesses the causes of the Air France flight 447 disaster and looks at the implications of the accident

Top_Cat · 22-10-2012, 03:56 PM

ATSB chiefs admits he's not proud of Pel-Air report | Plane Talking

I'm sure that people not in aviation are probably wondering why this particular crash has exploded (so to speak). It's a significant case not because of the crash or that a particular operator has been negligent but because it would seem the organisation charged with investigating it, the ATSB, and the organisation charged with oversight of aviation here, CASA, are possibly proving themselves incompetent at performing those roles and, possibly, guilty of cover-ups for whatever reason. Stuff like this in other countries has seen their airlines banned from landing elsewhere like when the EU banned Garuda from entering their airspace.

It's not just this incident, the recent incidents with that Virgin 737 which got 'lost', other lack of separate assurance and how well CASA has dealt with (or not) with Jetstar in the last two years is also coming up.

uvelocity · 22-10-2012, 04:45 PM

hasn't dick smith been banging on about em for years?

benchmark00 · 22-10-2012, 04:59 PM

I pulled up to a house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabby "Yo, homes smell you later!"
Looked at my kingdom I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the prince of Pel-air

Top_Cat · 22-10-2012, 05:03 PM

You could say that.

Was chair of CASA for a couple of years in the 90's too so he'd know how decisions are often made.

uvelocity · 22-10-2012, 05:06 PM

Number of visits: 1717

stop stalking him top****

benchmark00 · 22-10-2012, 05:10 PM

Any **** (top_**** the most likely) a member of Australian Frequent Flyer?

Top_Cat · 22-10-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by uvelocity

Number of visits: 1717

stop stalking him top****

Will admit to being a frequent visitor to the humour section.

Top_Cat · 22-10-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by benchmark00

Any **** (top_**** the most likely) a member of Australian Frequent Flyer?

Psht, too poor to be a frequent flyer!

benchmark00 · 22-10-2012, 05:24 PM

Tony Modra is a member ftr.

09-10-2012, 10:42 PM	#62 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,163	Darwin ATC sent two Qantas jets on collision course \| Plane Talking A near mid-air, this one in Darwin by RAAF ATC. They don't mention it in this article but I'm led to believe there was around 800' vertical separation between the planes. In other words, SFA. __________________ Check out my bands! The Colourphonics http://www.youtube.com/user/TheColourphonics http://twitter.com/colourphonics Candice and The Arcade Villains http://triplejunearthed.com.au/Candi...ArcadeVillains

22-10-2012, 03:56 PM	#67 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,163	ATSB chiefs admits he's not proud of Pel-Air report \| Plane Talking I'm sure that people not in aviation are probably wondering why this particular crash has exploded (so to speak). It's a significant case not because of the crash or that a particular operator has been negligent but because it would seem the organisation charged with investigating it, the ATSB, and the organisation charged with oversight of aviation here, CASA, are possibly proving themselves incompetent at performing those roles and, possibly, guilty of cover-ups for whatever reason. Stuff like this in other countries has seen their airlines banned from landing elsewhere like when the EU banned Garuda from entering their airspace. It's not just this incident, the recent incidents with that Virgin 737 which got 'lost', other lack of separate assurance and how well CASA has dealt with (or not) with Jetstar in the last two years is also coming up. Last edited by Top_Cat; 22-10-2012 at 03:58 PM.

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10-10-2012, 06:09 PM	#64 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,163	WHY DID YOU JUMP OUT OF IT THEN. Crazy ****.

17-10-2012, 04:18 PM	#66 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,163	Operations & safety editor David Learmount assesses the causes of the Air France flight 447 disaster and looks at the implications of the accident

22-10-2012, 04:45 PM	#68 (permalink)
uvelocity Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: seamy road Posts: 8,233	hasn't dick smith been banging on about em for years?

22-10-2012, 05:03 PM	#70 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,163	You could say that. Was chair of CASA for a couple of years in the 90's too so he'd know how decisions are often made.

22-10-2012, 05:06 PM	#71 (permalink)
uvelocity Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: seamy road Posts: 8,233	Number of visits: 1717 stop stalking him top****

22-10-2012, 05:10 PM	#72 (permalink)
benchmark00 Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vote 1 Tangy Posts: 30,097	Any ** (top_** the most likely) a member of Australian Frequent Flyer?

22-10-2012, 05:24 PM	#75 (permalink)
benchmark00 Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vote 1 Tangy Posts: 30,097	Tony Modra is a member ftr.

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