Exposed: Groomed for Sex - Page 2

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 03:12 PM

I have heard about boys being sold in the sex slave trade. For example I know that it's done in Afghanistan, but I didn't know that there were more cases for boys than girls, and I am very shocked to hear that. But how is it that there is more demand for boys?

flibbertyjibber · 06-12-2011, 03:21 PM

Don't start me on this one. Dirty bunch of wankers close to me are due in court soon for doing just this, worst bit is where they were videoing it all, the guy from that house is allowed to take his daughter to school every day. Makes my blood run cold watching him look at other kids, sick ****er.

Top_Cat · 06-12-2011, 03:28 PM

Depends on where we are talking about but here, it's an issue of supply. Girls are watched closer and the issue has had much greater attention for many years so people pick up on the signs that girls are being abused quicker, underage girls in brothels tend to get picked up and shunted out straight away, etc. Boys doing it slip under the radar easier, attract less suspicion, etc. The perception is still around that a healthy (or at least mutually beneficial) sexual relationship between an older man and a teenage boy can happen. Girls having sex with an older man = abuse. Boys having sex with an older man = experimenting. Add $ to the mix and, like I said, virtually no sympathy from most people.

So yeah, as I said, convincing people it goes on at all is hard but then convincing them that's it's actually a problem is harder still. Again, depends on where; in the Middle-East and Africa, I know the bigger market is still for young girls. Western countries, different story although it's even tough to generalise over a whole country. Even then, after working your arse off to prove the problem exists and maybe even getting enough to pinch someone for it, convincing a jury in court becomes a nightmare when it's a boy, especially if they have attitude problems which young boys who've been 'allowing' some old dude to have sex with them for money tend to have. Juries are such wusses when it comes to **** like this, seem to worry more about the community standing and consequences of a guilty verdict of the perp when it comes to male victims.

Ireland recently grappled with this and their clergy. Christ, the police were even helping them out.

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber

Don't start me on this one. Dirty bunch of wankers close to me are due in court soon for doing just this, worst bit is where they were videoing it all, the guy from that house is allowed to take his daughter to school every day. Makes my blood run cold watching him look at other kids, sick ****er.

Hope the ****ers go to prison for a long time. Were they also Pakistani?

Stuff like this needs the death penalty imho.

Xuhaib · 06-12-2011, 04:09 PM

not defending these guys they are true scums and deserve to get the worst (best) possible punishment for their crimes irrespective of their ethnicity but maybe the upbringing of these white girls may also have something to do in to why they are the ones who mainly get targetted.

My sister who lives in Australia has teenage daughters constantly educate her girls how to handle themselves if such people approach them many other people in her community do the same, are these white parents doing their part by educating their kids about the dangers of such incidents happening.

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Xuhaib

not defending these guys they are true scums and deserve to get the worst (best) possible punishment for their crimes irrespective of their ethnicity but maybe the upbringing of these white girls may also have something to do in to why they are the ones who mainly get targetted.

My sister who lives in Australia has teenage daughters constantly educate her girls how to handle themselves if such people approach them many other people in her community do the same, are these white parents doing their part by educating their kids about the dangers of such incidents happening.

Xuhaib that's the same excuse people make regarding rape. That it's the woman's fault because she was semi-nude. The point is that it's the person committing the crime who is at 100% fault.

Regarding this particular issue, the girls are aged from 11. How can you expect a child to avoid 30 year old bastards like these.

Xuhaib · 06-12-2011, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux

Xuhaib that's the same excuse people make regarding rape. That it's the woman's fault because she was semi-nude. The point is that it's the person committing the crime who is at 100% fault.

Regarding this particular issue, the girls are aged from 11. How can you expect a child to avoid 30 year old bastards like these.

yeah not at all deflecting the blame just presenting an opinion that some better parenting may also help in keeping these rascals at bay from the vulnerable kids/teenagers.

GingerFurball · 06-12-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xuhaib

yeah not at all deflecting the blame just presenting an opinion that some better parenting may also help in keeping these rascals at bay from the vulnerable kids/teenagers.

Parents can't keep an eye on their kids all of the time. And it's all very well educating your children as to the dangers, but a lot of the time these scumbags are plying kids with alcohol or drugs, which is obviously going to impair their judgement.

Top_Cat · 06-12-2011, 04:30 PM

There's a power imbalance too, the very reason for age of consent laws.

flibbertyjibber · 06-12-2011, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux

Hope the ****ers go to prison for a long time. Were they also Pakistani?

Stuff like this needs the death penalty imho.

Yeah 7 of them, grooming kids from 14 up with alcohol and money in exchange for sex with them and their friends and others for money.

stephen · 06-12-2011, 05:20 PM

There are a number of organisations out there that are attempting to end sex trafficking. If you feel strongly about this (and really, who wouldn't) a good organisation to donate to is The Grey Man.

I have no affiliation with them, but they are an organisation who send spies into foreign brothels and strip clubs and rescue trafficked girls.

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 05:20 PM

Really disgusting.

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen

There are a number of organisations out there that are attempting to end sex trafficking. If you feel strongly about this (and really, who wouldn't) a good organisation to donate to is The Grey Man.

I have no affiliation with them, but they are an organisation who send spies into foreign brothels and strip clubs and rescue trafficked girls.

I didn't know much about this issue until I watched the film Taken. It's sad that I got my knowledge through a Hollywood film. I guess that shows that it's not a widely known issue.

stephen · 06-12-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux

I didn't know much about this issue until I watched the film Taken. It's sad that I got my knowledge through a Hollywood film. I guess that shows that it's not a widely known issue.

Yeah the awareness of this issue is generally quite poor, I only know about this through churches that I've been involved with.

Agent Nationaux · 06-12-2011, 05:26 PM

It's good to know that a lot of religious organisations try to tackle issues like these.

06-12-2011, 03:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,187	Depends on where we are talking about but here, it's an issue of supply. Girls are watched closer and the issue has had much greater attention for many years so people pick up on the signs that girls are being abused quicker, underage girls in brothels tend to get picked up and shunted out straight away, etc. Boys doing it slip under the radar easier, attract less suspicion, etc. The perception is still around that a healthy (or at least mutually beneficial) sexual relationship between an older man and a teenage boy can happen. Girls having sex with an older man = abuse. Boys having sex with an older man = experimenting. Add $ to the mix and, like I said, virtually no sympathy from most people. So yeah, as I said, convincing people it goes on at all is hard but then convincing them that's it's actually a problem is harder still. Again, depends on where; in the Middle-East and Africa, I know the bigger market is still for young girls. Western countries, different story although it's even tough to generalise over a whole country. Even then, after working your arse off to prove the problem exists and maybe even getting enough to pinch someone for it, convincing a jury in court becomes a nightmare when it's a boy, especially if they have attitude problems which young boys who've been 'allowing' some old dude to have sex with them for money tend to have. Juries are such wusses when it comes to ** like this, seem to worry more about the community standing and consequences of a guilty verdict of the perp when it comes to male victims. Ireland recently grappled with this and their clergy. Christ, the police were even helping them out. __________________ Check out my bands! The Colourphonics http://www.youtube.com/user/TheColourphonics http://twitter.com/colourphonics Candice and The Arcade Villains** http://triplejunearthed.com.au/Candi...ArcadeVillains Last edited by Top_Cat; 06-12-2011 at 03:44 PM.

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flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,941	Don't start me on this one. Dirty bunch of wankers close to me are due in court soon for doing just this, worst bit is where they were videoing it all, the guy from that house is allowed to take his daughter to school every day. Makes my blood run cold watching him look at other kids, sick ****er.

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Xuhaib Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Karachi Posts: 9,394	not defending these guys they are true scums and deserve to get the worst (best) possible punishment for their crimes irrespective of their ethnicity but maybe the upbringing of these white girls may also have something to do in to why they are the ones who mainly get targetted. My sister who lives in Australia has teenage daughters constantly educate her girls how to handle themselves if such people approach them many other people in her community do the same, are these white parents doing their part by educating their kids about the dangers of such incidents happening.

06-12-2011, 04:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
Top_Cat Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 21,187	There's a power imbalance too, the very reason for age of consent laws.

06-12-2011, 05:20 PM	#26 (permalink)
stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	There are a number of organisations out there that are attempting to end sex trafficking. If you feel strongly about this (and really, who wouldn't) a good organisation to donate to is The Grey Man. I have no affiliation with them, but they are an organisation who send spies into foreign brothels and strip clubs and rescue trafficked girls.

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Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	Really disgusting.

06-12-2011, 05:26 PM	#30 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,269	It's good to know that a lot of religious organisations try to tackle issues like these.

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