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Old 06-12-2011, 08:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What were some of Winston's main policies heading into this election?
His usual policy of promoting Winston Peters.
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:00 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I still can't believe the majority Jonathan ****ing Coleman got in my electorate. The guy blew smoke in someone's eyes when they asked him to stop smoking in a non-smoking area, then got punched in the face for it. Is he really the best ambassador we can come up with?
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What were some of Winston's main policies heading into this election?

Do most NZ posters think he's an attention-seeking ****, or is he alright?
He's a dick. The last person I wanted to see in parliament
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I didn't vote for Winston Peters but he kicked some serious ass in the debate amongst the minor parties. He had the most experience and the most charisma and made the best points. Probably got himself elected right there.
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I didn't vote for Winston Peters but he kicked some serious ass in the debate amongst the minor parties. He had the most experience and the most charisma and made the best points. Probably got himself elected right there.
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They're all a bunch of self-interested wastrels not fit to lace the boots of the Proletariat. And I'm really fed up of National supporters telling me that I either "didn't understand" their policies or I'm ill informed. I understand their policies a darn sight better than most National members and think that they're at best self-serving. You can take your John Key and ram him up your National voting jacksie. The day the Anarchist revolution comes cannot be too soon.

As an aside, I e-mailed the local candidates in my constituency during the election as a bit of a straw poll to find out who would deign to reply. It took a while, but I got a reply from the local Greenie.

And as for MMP, I'm all for proportionality but MMP gives far too much power to the lunatic fringe in its current form. I was for Supplementary Member which provides a lower factor of proportionality, but would be happy enough with an overhaul of MMP I guess.
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MMP is better than those other options by a fair way besides SM. And the only reason I liked SM was because it fixed the proportional "bring in your mates" issue with MMP. If they can fix the issues with MMP it'll be all good.
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MMP is better than those other options by a fair way besides SM. And the only reason I liked SM was because it fixed the proportional "bring in your mates" issue with MMP. If they can fix the issues with MMP it'll be all good.
Yeah, this was pretty much my thought process.
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They're all a bunch of self-interested wastrels not fit to lace the boots of the Proletariat. And I'm really fed up of National supporters telling me that I either "didn't understand" their policies or I'm ill informed. I understand their policies a darn sight better than most National members and think that they're at best self-serving. You can take your John Key and ram him up your National voting jacksie. The day the Anarchist revolution comes cannot be too soon.

As an aside, I e-mailed the local candidates in my constituency during the election as a bit of a straw poll to find out who would deign to reply. It took a while, but I got a reply from the local Greenie.

And as for MMP, I'm all for proportionality but MMP gives far too much power to the lunatic fringe in its current form. I was for Supplementary Member which provides a lower factor of proportionality, but would be happy enough with an overhaul of MMP I guess.
This will be National's last term. They were very middle of the road in the first term. Now the cuts to the welfare state etc are coming out in their 2nd term. They will not last. John Key has been a very popular PM though I find myself even liking him and I don't vote National.

The only PM I didn't really like was Muldoon but then I think he polarized half the nation.
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Pisses me off no end how everyone loves John Key totally independent of his policies. Seriously guys, this is the bloke running our country, think beyond charisma a little, eh? Too late now anyway.
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Pisses me off no end how everyone loves John Key totally independent of his policies. Seriously guys, this is the bloke running our country, think beyond charisma a little, eh? Too late now anyway.
I guess according to my cousin personality is everything. All of these mainstream parties govern the issues of the day according to pragmatism and weighing up the pros and cons of the situation - therefore his personality and his leadership characteristics are more important than his policy leanings (according to my cousin) because the majority of the decisions will be made on situational factors. Apart from the Muldoon government the country has not gone to the dogs no matter who has been in charge.
I do think it would be a disaster if the greens ever got in. Or if Act or Winston took power. But Labour and National are pretty steady as she goes type governments. Which is why they get so many votes.
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The Greens would be ****ing great for some things tbh, and not necessarily their main policies either.
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The Greens would be ****ing great for some things tbh, and not necessarily their main policies either.
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The Greens ran a far more professional, respectable, focused and coherent campaign than Labour did this year. Not ashamed to admit they poached my vote from Labour this time.
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