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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Yeah, It totally is. However, The opposition parties here think it is their sacred duty to fight anything proposed by the govt. regardless of how beneficial it is.
    Love how the West Bengal parties right from Trinamool to Communist just oppose anything to do with America and reforms. Doesn't matter if they are in the same government coalition or not either.

    Tbh, many other sectors could have been reformed first where there is a broader consensus if there was need of FDI inflow in the country.Multi brand Retail has always been contentious(and not that big in terms of inflow either) and the opposition is sensing blood, so though it may be a clever strategy to deflect attention from other issues it was a unnecessary political risk to take right now.

    Agree that opposition from the BJP is more opportunistic than ideological though, same as what Congress did at there time when they were a lot more reformist and right win than this government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    btw what are the chances of this congress govt being re-elected?
    If the Elections are right now, not that good at all, i would think. This government has been extremely poor on almost all counts.
    But they have 2 years to go if nobody pulls the rug(Mamata Banerjee) and a new Gandhi to project.(i.e thrust on the country.)

    Who seems to be the next best contention if they don't return?
    The BJP led NDA coalition. Though, they themselves need to sort out their internal differences and leadership battle first.

    Good article on BJP right now -
    National Interest: Self-opposition party - Indian Express

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    Retail FDI was ?anti-national' for Congress in 2002

    While BJP perhaps wanted FDI in retail when in government in 2002, the Congress in opposition was calling it anti-national. What a volte-face it has been either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    I am personally somewhat divided on it tbh. All for FDI but like M.S Swaminathan not sure whether we need it in retail.
    It is a big source of unorganised self employment in the country(unlike any other economy in the world), and a possible streamlining of it could lead to some problems for sure unless the competition safeguards are built in and the mechanism's are fully prepared for it.
    The manufacturing sector also needs to be protected from the Chinese to some extent, because India can't become as dependent as U.S.A on them.
    Hmm, it'll crash the retail price of food in a country that still has plenty of poverty. Seems strange that people still give a damn about stuff like dependency and the unorganised self-employed when the benefits are so huge.
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    The opposition is mainly from the middle men who benefit from merely existing in the supply chain. Cutting down the number of links in the chain, which is what FDI in retail will essentially achieve, puts them out of work. Consumers and farmers benefit from FDI in retail. Its just that the middle men are more vocal with their opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Retail FDI was ?anti-national' for Congress in 2002

    While BJP perhaps wanted FDI in retail when in government in 2002, the Congress in opposition was calling it anti-national. What a volte-face it has been either way.
    Apparently the BJP commisioned a study immediately after the elections were over, and the commision recommended that retail FDI wouldn't be beneficial.
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    S M Krishna, two ex-chief ministers face probe in mining scam - The Times of India

    2G scam: Order on Subramanian Swamy's plea against Chidambaram on December 8

    The noose tightens? 2 OF THE senior most ministers in the government.

    I guess the Congress didn't think RTI through properly at the time? No wonder they are trying every discreet/overt attempt to weaken it.
    And with being unable to do that, it is no surprise they also want to prepare the weakest lokpal possible and keep the CBI with them because a independent prosecutor/investigator on top of the RTI for information could prove absolutely lethal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    That is true to some extent, but 3 situations -

    You have just had someone burgle you, and the police refuse to register a FIR without a bribe immediately. What you do?

    You are in the Bureaucracy and struggling to pay the bills, house installment etc.. and then you see 2 of your colleagues engaging in corruption, getting and getting away with it.what you do?
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    You do the right thing. I would rather not file the FIR with the police that is so corrupt that requires money from you to file a complaint. I just do not trust that Police to take action.

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    I was making a broader point there tbh. I don't disagree with your response but that is no viable solution and therefore need for constant attempts and models to deal with the problem(though they won't solve everything obviously). And btw, those examples were more extreme instances too perhaps.

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    India – Google Transparency Report

    255 Government criticisim content removal requests made by the government of Indian this year to Google(January to june). Highest by any country in the world. Anna Effect?

    Is pretty disgusting tbh.
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    India May Overstep Its Own Laws in Demanding Content Filtering | PCWorld Business Center

    The Hindu : News / National : Sibal warns social websites over objectionable content.

    Chamchas of Sonia Gandhi have lost it.

    Apparently, now you can't say Madam Sonia has a swiss account or is italian now on the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    India May Overstep Its Own Laws in Demanding Content Filtering | PCWorld Business Center

    The Hindu : News / National : Sibal warns social websites over objectionable content.

    Chamchas of Sonia Gandhi have lost it.

    Apparently, now you can't say Madam Sonia has a swiss account or is italian now on the net.
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    Can't be worse than this

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    Representative democracy can be such a ass sometimes.

    Kapil Sibal got more abuse and more morphed pictures made of him and Sonia Gandhi yesterday, than ever before. #idiotkapilsibal was trending on twitter worldwide.

    No doubt these type of threats are a fallout from the Anna Hazare movement.

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    New firewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Reminds me of this.
    Haha, I love the "surely this is a joke" in the URL.
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