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    Italy to Return Marine Murder Suspects to India

    Italy to Return the Marines. ITSTL.

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    Not Sanju Baba! I used to hate him during IPL2 when after every ball he came out dressed as a giant crab advertising extraaa inings, but is one of the very few Bollywood actors that I know. Oh well, I don't know the details so I won't comment on the matter itself, but that was unexpected

    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Italy to Return Marine Murder Suspects to India

    Italy to Return the Marines. ITSTL.
    Eh???

    I only hope we won't have to wait for 20 years for the court to pronounce the verdict also in this case...
    Last edited by Гурин; 21-03-2013 at 03:51 PM.
    It's the pitch, stupid.

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    Interesting to say the least. Didn't expect the Italian government to return them as it seemed more and more some sort of underhand deal between the 2 governments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Гурин View Post
    I only hope we won't have to wait for 20 years for the court to pronounce the verdict also in this case...
    Don't think that case will be 20 years like a bomb blast and conspiracy case. And even for them 20 years is longer than normal.

    But could take 3/4 years at least, though matters pertaining to foreign nationals have been tried faster in the past if the Courts and the government want too. Not sure what the bail conditions will be now , after this latest episode.

    Indian judicial system currently needs a complete overhaul and more funds to be spent towards it in terms of staffing and infrastructure. The Backlog is huge and ludicrous tbh and often leads to "Justice delayed, Justice denied".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    He had links with Underworld and Dawood and Anees Ibrahim who were apparently behind these blasts. And these weapons he had came from them apparently along with the weapons that were used in the blast in 2/3 smuggled consignments.

    Whether he knew about the plot of the blasts is a different matter, but he has been only charged with illegal possession of Arms right now. Been lucky to get away from a TADA charge which would have had a bigger punishment.

    These weapons came in 2/3 smuggled consignments along with the RDX, Grenades etc.. and he asked for some weapons himself from Anees apparently for protection he claims.

    Listen to this -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgT...layer_embedded

    And read this -

    Tehelka - The People's Paper

    Sanjay's case

    As such he wasn't directly involved in the blasts anyway yep, and those were tough times in Mumbai in a communally charged environment. Babri demolition resulting in Riots, followed by these blasts.

    The Judgement on the whole seems sensible, but it seems he is somewhat of a changed man now and the verdict has been delayed so long for 20 years that it seems harsh in a way now. Hands of Law had to catch up, i guess and he had to pay for his sins even though he has somewhat paid them already.
    ITSTL. Didn't know a lot of the above although with the way he seems currently it does seem a little harsh. So basically he has gone to jail for illegal possession of arms from a cache believed to have been used in the mumbai blasts?
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

    Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

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    | Video | 1993 Mumbai blasts convict Yakub Memon's exclusive interview | India Videos | - India Today

    Interesting Old Interview with Yakub Memon, the guy who got Death Penalty in the bomb blast case. Tells, how he lived in Karachi in a massive house and with Pakistani passport and also other support from Pakistani officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    ITSTL. Didn't know a lot of the above although with the way he seems currently it does seem a little harsh. So basically he has gone to jail for illegal possession of arms from a cache believed to have been used in the mumbai blasts?
    Yep. He was charged for conspiracy and abettment too, but it wasn't proven and only a charge of illegal possessions of heavy arms was proven. If he was convicted under TADA he could have gotten a longer sentence including a life term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Yep. He was charged for conspiracy and abettment too, but it wasn't proven and only a charge of illegal possessions of heavy arms was proven. If he was convicted under TADA he could have gotten a longer sentence including a life term.
    Is India very strict on arms possession or Sanjay Dutt got a heavier verdict you think?

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    They were not normal arms though. SanjayDutt was arrested on charges of acquiring three AK-56 rifles, nine magazines, 450 cartridges and over 10 hand grenades. And one illegal 9 mm pistol too, i think.

    He claimed to be under threat in those troubled times in Mumbai, but acquiring all this from a known Don for self defence somehow doesn't meet the eye. And even if he did it was a crime.

    And yeah generally, Indian law with relation to Illegal firearm possession is in the stricter range. Especially concerning heavy arms. His friend who he called from Mauritius after panicking due to a newspaper report about him having these arms got 5 years like him + 2 years extra for destruction of evidence.
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    And 5 years was the minimum sentence for this offence. He could have been given probation wherein after a while based on his behavior he could have been released early, but judges denied him that while reducing the sentence.

    Govt or the Governor can still seek remission at a later date though.

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    wow.....that is strict.....but that is probably a good thing with these sort of things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Interesting to say the least. Didn't expect the Italian government to return them as it seemed more and more some sort of underhand deal between the 2 governments.
    Well don't forget that in the meantime the parliament has changed and we're in the process of changing the government aswell (won't be easy, unfortunately). The navy and the army are now putting all the blame on our foreign minister, but the story isn't covered much due to the aforementioned stuff. One thing's sure: were the marines americans, things would have been different. I invite ou to take a look at what happened at Cermis in 1998

    About judiciary system, the slowness of our own is the only reason that our old PM hasn't passed the last 20 years in jail instead than as the leader of either the country or the opposition. Matter is too complex and a bit OT to explain it in details here in the Indian Politics thread, but he contributed a lot to push our courtrooms down the well, and now it won't be easy to put things right.

    (I have been thinking about opening an 'Italian Politics thread', but it'd become a monologue, with people coming only to comment on Berlusconi's bets and comments about his female counterparts from other countries. Not worthy it)
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    Apparently, there has been a deal of sorts between the Italian and Indian governments and if sentenced, the Marines would serve their term in an Italian jail instead of an Indian one.
    Get well soon Yuvi!!

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