The Official Pakistan Politics thread

[Cevno]

What's Imran Khan's stand on this, btw? Because this Qadri might take away his momentum too. And Nawaz Sharif's ?

PPP should just appoint another PM, till the time of elections. And rest of the parties should support holding elections on time without army interference in a Caretaker government.

[smalishah84]

the problem is that with the latest partnership b/w Zardari and Nawaz ensured a constitutional amendment which says that govt and main opposition will decide the caretaker govt and the fear is that these 2 parties will then rig the elections. Given the amount of money being channeled into buying votes the fears are very real.

[smalishah84]

The first thing the PPP govt should do is to announce a date for the elections. Some good points raised by Imran. That how come Zardari only brings corrupt individuals as PM candidates. Just listening to this interview makes my blood boil. The country is going to the dogs and all these bloody bastards are busy looting and plundering and using state machinery to rig the elections

Imran Khan 7 point Agenda, demands immediate resignation of President: Press Conference

[Cevno]

Won't mind trying a few of the Indian politicians in the Pakistani Supreme Court ITBT.

[Fusion]

Originally Posted by Cevno

What's Imran Khan's stand on this, btw? Because this Qadri might take away his momentum too. And Nawaz Sharif's ?

His Saintness refused to support Qadri’s long march. I think that was a smart play on his part as you rightly point out that any momentum that Qadri gains would be at the expense of Imran and Nawaz. However, Imran is very enthusiastically supporting the Supreme Court decision to arrest the PM. That is extremely short sighted on his part IMHO. As I mentioned before, this is a coup in the making (it doesn’t matter that the military and judiciary may not be working together – they both have the same goal of toppling the government). If the government is dismissed, the two parties with the most to lose are Imran’s PTI and Nawaz’s PML, as they both are expected to do extremely well in the next elections and the caretaker setup may delay or even prevent the elections from taking place.

Originally Posted by Cevno

PPP should just appoint another PM, till the time of elections. And rest of the parties should support holding elections on time without army interference in a Caretaker government.

Absolutely agree with appointing another PM. Heck, even a jailed Raja Ashraf can serve as the PM until he’s convicted. Remember, no trial has taken place yet. By the way, the Supreme Court is not supposed to be a trial court, but rather an appeals court. They were supposed to wait until a trial court took up the case against the PM prior to butting in themselves. One more evidence of a biased and politically motivated court.


Excellent article here: Pakistan paralysed after court demands PM arrest

Ali Dayan Hasan, Pakistan director for Human Rights Watch, said that it would be “extremely naïve” to believe that the court order was coincidental to the protest.

“What is being created is a constitutional crisis and that breakdown will make space for extra-constitutional measures,” said Mr Hasan. “This order, and its timing, exposes the Supreme Court as a partisan actor.”

[Agent Nationaux]

Fusion has said it before but they are setting up a very dangerous precedence here.

[silentstriker]

FFS, can't ONE government last for the entirety of the time they were elected for?

[silentstriker]

Pakistan supreme court orders arrest of prime minister on corruption charges | World news | guardian.co.uk

For some protesters, who claimed to see the name of Allah in the clouds above Islamabad, the court's decision was a sign of divine intervention in favour of their sit-in, which began on Monday afternoon.

There is no hope for the world.


I'd much rather have a completely corrupt elected people than any unelected military or otherwise illegal government.

[Agent Nationaux]

Originally Posted by silentstriker

Pakistan supreme court orders arrest of prime minister on corruption charges | World news | guardian.co.uk



There is no hope for the world.


I'd much rather have a completely corrupt elected people than any unelected military or otherwise illegal government.

You mean there is no hope for Pakistan. In fact I lost hope a long time ago. It's just a new LOL everyday. I wonder what it will be tomorrow.

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by Cevno

Won't mind trying a few of the Indian politicians in the Pakistani Supreme Court ITBT.

Don't worry. Another shady individual will be announced shortly. The PPP should just announce the election date now. With only 2 months left to complete its term the date will calm things down a bit.

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by silentstriker

I'd much rather have a completely corrupt elected people than any unelected military or otherwise illegal government.

Right...........

[silentstriker]

Yea, I think when a citizenry accepts (instead of being forced to accept) an unelected dictator over an elected government they disagree with has pretty much failed as a citizen and they effectively live in a failed state.

I still have hope for Pakistan that the elections will go as planned and they'll be able to elect someone (anyone) instead of another dictator. I don't see why every single person doesn't demand a military dictator be shot as a traitor. Those people clearly violated their oath to their country when they decide to topple someone that the people elected at the ballot box.

[smalishah84]

Originally Posted by silentstriker

Yea, I think when a citizenry accepts (instead of being forced to accept) an unelected dictator over an elected government they disagree with has pretty much failed as a citizen and they effectively live in a failed state.

That's the key there.

And overall a pretty silly statement too.

[silentstriker]

Well clearly every statement anyone ever makes that is not regurgitating some fact is generally going to have that in front, implied or literal. But I stand by it.

[smalishah84]

of course you stand by the silliness