The Official Pakistan Politics thread - Page 93

smalishah84 · 31-12-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cevno

I may hate the Indian national Congress in current form, and also hate the Economic Policy that they followed for most part after independence but there is no disputing the fact that if it wasn't for that Party and the top leadership at the time, India would have broken up by now and had Military dictators and what not.

And India was even more divided than Pakistan across Caste and Religious lines and a perfect recipe for disaster and yet they mantained the Secular fabric to a large degree and also tried to make the society more liberal.Shudder to think if we had the fractured polity we have now, and the weak leadership at that time what would have happened.

Should hear Ramchandra Guha talk about the Histories of Pakistan and India, imo.

Probably very true.

Will listen to this Guha guy for sure.

Spark · 31-12-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

That's still a democracy. The people ultimately can elect people who can change it. For whatever reason, they choose not to. Unless the elections themselves are somehow unfair, you get the the government you deserve.

This is a really simplistic definition of a democracy to be honest. Certainly a healthy or stable democracy needs much more (civil society, free press, strong but not overbearing rule of law etc)

silentstriker · 31-12-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark

This is a really simplistic definition of a democracy to be honest. Certainly a healthy or stable democracy needs much more (civil society, free press, strong but not overbearing rule of law etc)

Those are subjective terms. As long as those things are able to be changed (eg the people are able to vote for more or less freedom of press by some mechanism) - its a democracy. You and I may not like the way it looks, or the values it espouses, but that's a democracy. The only real prerequisite would be the ability of an opposition party to make their case to the people and for the people to start new movements/parties, etc.

smalishah84 · 01-01-2013, 10:28 AM

Imran writing in the gulf news

The flawed strategy of drone strikes | GulfNews.com

smalishah84 · 01-01-2013, 11:56 AM

this is getting ridiculous and the govt has turned a blind eye

Seven killed as gunmen ambush NGO van near Swabi | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

Fusion · 01-01-2013, 02:27 PM

Lol. The "government" has turned a blind eye? Yeah it's the current government that doesn't recognize the dangers of the Taliban.

The Taliban are now carrying out bombings in Karachi. The whole of Pakistan is now under attack, but it's still NOT OUR WAR. America's fault! Let's negotiate! Peace and love forever!

Agent Nationaux · 01-01-2013, 03:48 PM

Seriously ****ed up. Miss Pakistan of the 90's, we never had this **** back then.

smalishah84 · 01-01-2013, 08:15 PM

If the security apparatus is not working then whose fault is it?

Ummm.....what has the govt really been able to do in its 5 years in power except just get into one corruption scam or another? Can you list down any achievements of this current coalition of corruption?

And the funny part is that the PPP govt has always had violence in its govt and never been able to control it. Anybody living in Karachi in the late 80s and 90s would know. Oh wait.......some people have always been 10000 miles from reality

The interior minister Mr Rehman Malik recently told the public "There is more violence coming up". So Mr Fusion, what is the govt set up with your taxpayers money doing? (Of course there will never be an answer

).

http://dawn.com/2013/01/01/endless-b...illed-in-city/

smalishah84 · 02-01-2013, 10:25 AM

Pak govt 'ready' for talks with Taliban only if 'they quit violence': Malik - Yahoo! News Singapore

My beloved Zardari will always fight those monsters

Pak govt 'ready' for talks with Taliban only if 'they quit violence': Malik - Yahoo! News Singapore

Fusion · 03-01-2013, 09:49 PM

Two year anniversary of the assassination of Salman Taseer, Governor of Punjab and outspoken defender of minority causes

One of the most tragic and shameful incidents in Pakistan's history. To add to the misery of Taseer's family, his son was subsequently kidnapped by terrorists over a year ago and is still being held by them. No one knows for sure if he's alive or dead.

RIP Mr. Taseer. A profile in courage and someone that inspires me deeply.

Agent Nationaux · 04-01-2013, 12:23 AM

What happened to him and his family was disgusting.

Fusion · 04-01-2013, 09:06 PM

Malala Yousaf, the 14 year old girl shot by the Taliban, was discharged from the hospital today. Best news. **** you Taliban! Shove this image up your asses:

smalishah84 · 05-01-2013, 09:41 PM

Qazi Hussain Ahmed dies

Qazi Hussain’s body brought to Peshwar | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

smalishah84 · 06-01-2013, 09:24 AM

US drone attacks: CIA chiefs face arrest over horrific evidence of bloody 'video-game' sorties | Mail Online

don't even know what to say reading this

smalishah84 · 07-01-2013, 06:57 AM

respect for the supreme court

SC discharges contempt notice against MQM chief | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

finally someone gets Altaf to apologize

01-01-2013, 03:48 PM	#1387 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,268	Seriously **ed up. Miss Pakistan of the 90's, we never had this ** back then. Last edited by Agent Nationaux; 01-01-2013 at 03:56 PM.

01-01-2013, 08:15 PM	#1388 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	If the security apparatus is not working then whose fault is it? Ummm.....what has the govt really been able to do in its 5 years in power except just get into one corruption scam or another? Can you list down any achievements of this current coalition of corruption? And the funny part is that the PPP govt has always had violence in its govt and never been able to control it. Anybody living in Karachi in the late 80s and 90s would know. Oh wait.......some people have always been 10000 miles from reality The interior minister Mr Rehman Malik recently told the public "There is more violence coming up". So Mr Fusion, what is the govt set up with your taxpayers money doing? (Of course there will never be an answer ). http://dawn.com/2013/01/01/endless-b...illed-in-city/ Last edited by smalishah84; 01-01-2013 at 08:20 PM.

07-01-2013, 06:57 AM	#1395 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	respect for the supreme court SC discharges contempt notice against MQM chief \| Pakistan \| DAWN.COM finally someone gets Altaf to apologize Last edited by smalishah84; 07-01-2013 at 07:38 AM.

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01-01-2013, 10:28 AM	#1384 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	Imran writing in the gulf news The flawed strategy of drone strikes \| GulfNews.com

01-01-2013, 11:56 AM	#1385 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	this is getting ridiculous and the govt has turned a blind eye Seven killed as gunmen ambush NGO van near Swabi \| Pakistan \| DAWN.COM

01-01-2013, 02:27 PM	#1386 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,770	Lol. The "government" has turned a blind eye? Yeah it's the current government that doesn't recognize the dangers of the Taliban. The Taliban are now carrying out bombings in Karachi. The whole of Pakistan is now under attack, but it's still NOT OUR WAR. America's fault! Let's negotiate! Peace and love forever!

02-01-2013, 10:25 AM	#1389 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	Pak govt 'ready' for talks with Taliban only if 'they quit violence': Malik - Yahoo! News Singapore My beloved Zardari will always fight those monsters Pak govt 'ready' for talks with Taliban only if 'they quit violence': Malik - Yahoo! News Singapore

03-01-2013, 09:49 PM	#1390 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,770	Two year anniversary of the assassination of Salman Taseer, Governor of Punjab and outspoken defender of minority causes One of the most tragic and shameful incidents in Pakistan's history. To add to the misery of Taseer's family, his son was subsequently kidnapped by terrorists over a year ago and is still being held by them. No one knows for sure if he's alive or dead. RIP Mr. Taseer. A profile in courage and someone that inspires me deeply.

04-01-2013, 12:23 AM	#1391 (permalink)
Agent Nationaux Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Posts: 8,268	What happened to him and his family was disgusting.

04-01-2013, 09:06 PM	#1392 (permalink)
Fusion Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United States Posts: 10,770	Malala Yousaf, the 14 year old girl shot by the Taliban, was discharged from the hospital today. Best news. **** you Taliban! Shove this image up your asses:

05-01-2013, 09:41 PM	#1393 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	Qazi Hussain Ahmed dies Qazi Hussain’s body brought to Peshwar \| Pakistan \| DAWN.COM

06-01-2013, 09:24 AM	#1394 (permalink)
smalishah84 Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: dxb Posts: 18,857	US drone attacks: CIA chiefs face arrest over horrific evidence of bloody 'video-game' sorties \| Mail Online don't even know what to say reading this

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