You completely missed my point it seems... Have you ever tried to consider what would make a person shoot a 14 year old girl?
I thought bringing up the concept of Harvey Dent/Two Face would have made the point but you completely missed it. Why was someone like Harvey Dent, a defender of justice about to kill Gordon's children?
Unlike most people, I am not satisfied with black and white theories of 'oh they are evil monsters who hate our freedom'
War has a far more devastating and long lasting effect than just the number of people killed..it chews out your soul and spits it back at you.. But I don't think you and most people understand this.. you are just interested in 'oh look at these inhuman monsters, they shot a 14 year old girl' no one is interested in asking the question why.
As someone extremely interested in human behaviour, I have studied different wars and revolutions throughout history in order to find the answer to that question.Most people are not willing to go that far and are only satisfied in simple and lazy answers like "oh they are just evil and hate us"
A brilliant piece that highlights much more eloquently the points I have been trying to make.
The PSY scandal: singing about killing people v. constantly doing it | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
"If you want your country to rule the world as an aggressive and militaristic empire, then accept the inevitable consequence of that: that there will be huge numbers of people in the world who resent and even hate your country for that behavior. Don't cheer while your country constantly kills, invades, occupies, and dominates the internal affairs of countless other nations - and then expect to be liked. Immorality aside, producing this reaction is one reason not to do such things. This kind of imperial behavior, inevitably and in every era, generates extreme levels of animosity and, ultimately, returned violence."
very well written article
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that the party of accountability is once again hypocritical on an issue.
How can a party who's main platform is to end corruption tolerate such people within its own ranks? I would think Imran would oust all three of them today if he's really a man of his word. I can't wait to hear the excuses and justification of PTI fan boys on this issue!
Last edited by smalishah84; 12-12-2012 at 10:12 AM.
Makhdoom Javed Hashmi paid Rs60,749 that was probably deducted on his salary income as MNA. No other income has been shown and thus not taxed. He paid Rs29,115 and Rs39,325 in 2009 and 2010 respectively
The actual report lists who filed and paid taxes. Notice that the 3 PTI members I listed did not pay taxes (income tax excluded).
The report does not take into account the tax paid by politicians on their parliamentary salaries, which is automatically deducted by the government. In fact that is a major source of criticism against the report, because parliamentarians automatically pay tax on their salaries. But that's not the point is it? The point is that the vast majority (especially wealthy individuals like Hashmi) are not living off their meager government salaries alone. They are earning income through land and other assets.
So I ask you Smali: Do you really think all Hashmi/Leghari/Sindhu earned were from their government salaries? I think the answer is obvious. So, what’s Imran going to do about it? What are YOU going to demand as a PTI supporter Imran do about this?
Last edited by Fusion; 12-12-2012 at 10:39 AM.
When the other clowns talk about taking Pakistan on the path to development I just have to ask the question. What the **** were you doing from 1988-99 and from 2008-2012?
It just reminded me of a cricket analogy.
The argument to support non-PTI parties is pretty much like the BCCI stance on DRS. Since PTI does not seem to have a 100% record hence we will go with the current lot (despite the current lot being a lot worse than PTI
Last edited by Fusion; 12-12-2012 at 02:29 PM.
Don't get the point of this report if they haven't found out all the other income sources, imo and not listed the taxes paid of their salaries.
First tell the amount of tax each one was supposed to pay under current law and has evaded, and then it'll be some sort of investigation.
Obv, not everyone was living of their salaries alone but that doesn't mean that all of them weren't either and if they weren't what they were living off won't be necessarily taxable. Hell, most of the politicians under declare their assets anyway in these parts and tbf they have to due to the market value being determined by Black Money.
So let me ask you Fusion,
who are you supporting for the next election?
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